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Please refrain from using the term "stdlib", it has a specific meaning and I have trouble understanding what do you mean by it. Are you referring to the native

Please refrain from using the term "stdlib", it has a specific meaning and I have trouble understanding what do you mean by it. Are you referring to the native GUI toolkit of a platform (e.g. Winforms, Cocoa) or something else?

dgfitz 2y ago
I will not refrain, you're the only one confused by it. Just google it. You are incorrect and you're not pumped about it, I get it. The horse is fully beat to death. If you want to discuss further, my responses will probably just be lmgtfy links.
- orangeboats 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_library https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_library > In computer programming, a standard library is the library made available across implementations of a programming language. You should show me that, among the mainstream programming languages, their standard library will provide get_cursor_pos().
  - dgfitz 2y ago
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- anyfoo 2y ago
  I find their point pedantic, but I tend to think it is correct. The "standard library" of a language is the library that comes with the language itself, usually across all platforms, and that rarely contains anything UI-wise beyond the very basics (e.g. text/terminal I/O like printing and reading lines). I do agree that probably no-one was confused, though.
  - dgfitz 2y ago
    Check out the link a few comments down.
- seba_dos1 2y ago
  It's clearly you who's confusing "standard library" with "UI toolkit". Some standard libraries come with a toolkit, like Java, but that's an exception rather than rule. Not that it makes a huge difference in the discussion, but if you want to be smug about it then at least make sure you're right first.
  - dgfitz 2y ago
    You literally contradicted yourself.
    - orangeboats 2y ago
      No he didn't. Java is quite possibly the only mainstream language that provides a GUI toolkit in its standard library. It's an exception, not the rule. Even Python, well known for its batteries-included std, do not provide this magical get_cursor_pos() function that you insist is found in stdlibs.
      - seba_dos1 2y ago
        Perhaps Delphi and Visual Basic could count too if you squint? Can't think of anything else.

dgfitz 2y ago

I will not refrain, you're the only one confused by it. Just google it. You are incorrect and you're not pumped about it, I get it. The horse is fully beat to death. If you want to discuss further, my responses will probably just be lmgtfy links.

orangeboats 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_library https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_library > In computer programming, a standard library is the library made available across implementations of a programming language. You should show me that, among the mainstream programming languages, their standard library will provide get_cursor_pos().
- dgfitz 2y ago
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anyfoo 2y ago
I find their point pedantic, but I tend to think it is correct. The "standard library" of a language is the library that comes with the language itself, usually across all platforms, and that rarely contains anything UI-wise beyond the very basics (e.g. text/terminal I/O like printing and reading lines). I do agree that probably no-one was confused, though.
- dgfitz 2y ago
  Check out the link a few comments down.
seba_dos1 2y ago
It's clearly you who's confusing "standard library" with "UI toolkit". Some standard libraries come with a toolkit, like Java, but that's an exception rather than rule. Not that it makes a huge difference in the discussion, but if you want to be smug about it then at least make sure you're right first.
- dgfitz 2y ago
  You literally contradicted yourself.
  - orangeboats 2y ago
    No he didn't. Java is quite possibly the only mainstream language that provides a GUI toolkit in its standard library. It's an exception, not the rule. Even Python, well known for its batteries-included std, do not provide this magical get_cursor_pos() function that you insist is found in stdlibs.
    - seba_dos1 2y ago
      Perhaps Delphi and Visual Basic could count too if you squint? Can't think of anything else.