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This endorsement is the weakest I have seen. Paul Graham wanted to enorse the left no matter what because of his silicon valley connections, and then created an

This endorsement is the weakest I have seen. Paul Graham wanted to enorse the left no matter what because of his silicon valley connections, and then created an exaplanation afterwards (it would be suprising for me if he ever voted republican in the last 20 years). In my experience the best way to stop banana republic from happening is to always give power to the party with less power (which was democrat last time, republic this time), as both parties have a danger of trying to accumulate too much power nowdays.

karmakurtisaani 2y ago
Can you give examples of democrats trying to accumulate power?
- xiphias2 2y ago
  Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. As a Hungarian I see my own country going down economically because Hungarians outside my country got voting rights and benefits because of Orban without reqirements for taxation, and now we are stuck with a dictator. Of course US has a much more stable system, but the leftist strategy there seems to me like a parallel to what Orban was doing on the right.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    It generally takes > 10 years before migrants can vote. If that's the Democratic strategy, it's a pretty poor one.
  - legitster 2y ago
    > Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. First of all, new migrants can't vote without becoming citizens. So even if it did increase Democratic votes, it would be on a much longer timeline. Second of all, the last democratic presidents actually did a better job of returning migrants, just without all of the drama and commotion: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-re... The reality is both parties are currently tough on illegal immigration. But one party is overtly nationalist about it.
    - slowmovintarget 2y ago
      By what mechanism will polling places determine a person's citizenship at time of voting?
      - aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago
        They won't be on the voter rolls. If they vote with a provisional ballot, then once again their registration will be checked before their ballot is counted.
      - jacobjjacob 2y ago
        It’s called a “provisional ballot” and the exact process varies by state
  - mcphage 2y ago
    > Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. > As a Hungarian… Where are you getting your news from in Hungary that is both reporting on US politics but also is so confused about the basics of how voting in the US works?
- slowmovintarget 2y ago
  The drumbeat against the 1st Amendment (Hillary, Kerry, news pundits...). They're all talking about how "problematic" and "constraining" the first amendment is, and how it "gets in their way" to govern because they can't control the narrative. They seem to be missing the irony in their complaints; the constraint is intended upon those doing the governing.
  - jauntywundrkind 2y ago
    Can you link any examples of democrats saying anything anything like that? This seems wildly unsupported to me. Reps like Ron Wyden are a constant source of intelligence & level headedness & competence around speech & online systems, in my view.
    - slowmovintarget 2y ago
      Here's John Kerry at the World Economic Forum a few weeks back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3Ka7dMVmk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3Ka7dMVmk
      - cherry_tree 2y ago
        Hes seems to be describing why misinformation is more of a challenge for democratic governments to combat than for non-democratic governments, it’s weird that they edited out the question, hard to understand the context of the answer. Transcript: John Kerry: And I think the the dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing. And it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact, the kind of, you know, been eviscerated to a certain degree. And, people go, people self-select where they go for their news or for their information, and then you just get into a vicious cycle. So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this. And, and, you know, there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities, in order to guarantee that you're going to have, you know, some accountability on facts, etc.. But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and, you know, has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of existence. So what you need, what we need is to, is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully having, you know, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to, to, implement change. Now, obviously, there are some people in our country who are prepared to implement change in other ways. And . . . Børge Brende: So you're questioning, really, for [if] democracy can survive unregulated social media? John Kerry: I think democracies are, are very challenged right now and have not proven they can move fast enough or big enough to deal with the challenges that we are facing. And to me, that is part of what this race, this, this election is all about. Will we break the fever in the United States?
mcphage 2y ago
> In my experience the best way to stop banana republic from happening is to always give power to the party with less power Here’s a better idea: don’t give power to the party that’s trying to turn the country into a banana republic.

karmakurtisaani 2y ago

Can you give examples of democrats trying to accumulate power?

xiphias2 2y ago
Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. As a Hungarian I see my own country going down economically because Hungarians outside my country got voting rights and benefits because of Orban without reqirements for taxation, and now we are stuck with a dictator. Of course US has a much more stable system, but the leftist strategy there seems to me like a parallel to what Orban was doing on the right.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  It generally takes > 10 years before migrants can vote. If that's the Democratic strategy, it's a pretty poor one.
- legitster 2y ago
  > Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. First of all, new migrants can't vote without becoming citizens. So even if it did increase Democratic votes, it would be on a much longer timeline. Second of all, the last democratic presidents actually did a better job of returning migrants, just without all of the drama and commotion: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-re... The reality is both parties are currently tough on illegal immigration. But one party is overtly nationalist about it.
  - slowmovintarget 2y ago
    By what mechanism will polling places determine a person's citizenship at time of voting?
    - aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 2y ago
      They won't be on the voter rolls. If they vote with a provisional ballot, then once again their registration will be checked before their ballot is counted.
    - jacobjjacob 2y ago
      It’s called a “provisional ballot” and the exact process varies by state
- mcphage 2y ago
  > Sure, right now the democrat policy is letting migrants in so that they vote for democrats. > As a Hungarian… Where are you getting your news from in Hungary that is both reporting on US politics but also is so confused about the basics of how voting in the US works?
slowmovintarget 2y ago
The drumbeat against the 1st Amendment (Hillary, Kerry, news pundits...). They're all talking about how "problematic" and "constraining" the first amendment is, and how it "gets in their way" to govern because they can't control the narrative. They seem to be missing the irony in their complaints; the constraint is intended upon those doing the governing.
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  Can you link any examples of democrats saying anything anything like that? This seems wildly unsupported to me. Reps like Ron Wyden are a constant source of intelligence & level headedness & competence around speech & online systems, in my view.
  - slowmovintarget 2y ago
    Here's John Kerry at the World Economic Forum a few weeks back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3Ka7dMVmk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3Ka7dMVmk
    - cherry_tree 2y ago
      Hes seems to be describing why misinformation is more of a challenge for democratic governments to combat than for non-democratic governments, it’s weird that they edited out the question, hard to understand the context of the answer. Transcript: John Kerry: And I think the the dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing. And it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact, the kind of, you know, been eviscerated to a certain degree. And, people go, people self-select where they go for their news or for their information, and then you just get into a vicious cycle. So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this. And, and, you know, there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities, in order to guarantee that you're going to have, you know, some accountability on facts, etc.. But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and, you know, has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of existence. So what you need, what we need is to, is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully having, you know, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to, to, implement change. Now, obviously, there are some people in our country who are prepared to implement change in other ways. And . . . Børge Brende: So you're questioning, really, for [if] democracy can survive unregulated social media? John Kerry: I think democracies are, are very challenged right now and have not proven they can move fast enough or big enough to deal with the challenges that we are facing. And to me, that is part of what this race, this, this election is all about. Will we break the fever in the United States?

mcphage 2y ago

> In my experience the best way to stop banana republic from happening is to always give power to the party with less power Here’s a better idea: don’t give power to the party that’s trying to turn the country into a banana republic.