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You didn't see the "1.7x more Excel productivity" chart from yesterday's new iMac? https://youtu.be/eaB7nCdId0Y?t=364 https://youtu.be/eaB7nCdId0Y?t=364 https

You didn't see the "1.7x more Excel productivity" chart from yesterday's new iMac? https://youtu.be/eaB7nCdId0Y?t=364 https://youtu.be/eaB7nCdId0Y?t=364 https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/28/24281965/honestly-this-is-a-work-of-art https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/28/24281965/honestly-this-i...

jeffbee 2y ago
It's funny that they advertise this because a Mac comes with a spreadsheet application that is hard to use and unbelievably slow. If they sent some engineers to work on that program they could get a 10x-100x improvement on the software side instead of grinding it out on the hardware side.
- OnionBlender 2y ago
  It's also funny because Visicalc was a big contributor to the Apple II's popularity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc
- seec 2y ago
  Yeah Numbers is nice for making cool layouts and convenient for its multi-table functionality in one page but it's also very lackluster in so many ways (no pivot for stater). But the worst thing is by far its abysmal performance. Even simple accounting sheets get absurdly slow in the low hundreds of rows, no matter how powerful your machine is. So, you might as well use a web app, like Google sheets that has other advantages. To be honest it feels like they still offer their office suite just to say they have something else than Microsoft offerings, they have stopped caring about any of it a long time ago (with the redesign IMO).
hggigg 2y ago
While that sounds pretty funny I know people who actually burn the CPU on Excel so that might be significant. Granted they should not be using Excel for what they do but you know, it's easier than learning something new!
- nxobject 2y ago
  Once people learn Goal Seek and the matrix extensions to Excel’s macro language, it’s game over for corporate standard-issue Dell 11” laptops, that’s for sure.
dsv3099i 2y ago
I just assumed they were running one of the many "Office Productivity" benchmarks that are possible. For example: https://support.benchmarks.ul.com/support/solutions/articles/44002268158-excel-test https://support.benchmarks.ul.com/support/solutions/articles...

jeffbee 2y ago

It's funny that they advertise this because a Mac comes with a spreadsheet application that is hard to use and unbelievably slow. If they sent some engineers to work on that program they could get a 10x-100x improvement on the software side instead of grinding it out on the hardware side.

OnionBlender 2y ago
It's also funny because Visicalc was a big contributor to the Apple II's popularity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc
seec 2y ago
Yeah Numbers is nice for making cool layouts and convenient for its multi-table functionality in one page but it's also very lackluster in so many ways (no pivot for stater). But the worst thing is by far its abysmal performance. Even simple accounting sheets get absurdly slow in the low hundreds of rows, no matter how powerful your machine is. So, you might as well use a web app, like Google sheets that has other advantages. To be honest it feels like they still offer their office suite just to say they have something else than Microsoft offerings, they have stopped caring about any of it a long time ago (with the redesign IMO).

hggigg 2y ago

While that sounds pretty funny I know people who actually burn the CPU on Excel so that might be significant. Granted they should not be using Excel for what they do but you know, it's easier than learning something new!

nxobject 2y ago
Once people learn Goal Seek and the matrix extensions to Excel’s macro language, it’s game over for corporate standard-issue Dell 11” laptops, that’s for sure.

dsv3099i 2y ago

I just assumed they were running one of the many "Office Productivity" benchmarks that are possible. For example: https://support.benchmarks.ul.com/support/solutions/articles/44002268158-excel-test https://support.benchmarks.ul.com/support/solutions/articles...