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Honestly, I wish they'd go with an external USB-C power brick. The only reason they might not is that they want to keep everything across the entire line, and

Honestly, I wish they'd go with an external USB-C power brick. The only reason they might not is that they want to keep everything across the entire line, and the highest end Mac Studio probably needs more power than USB can offer.

spacedcowboy 2y ago
How could you supply enough power on one input USBc to source sufficient power on 3xTB5 + 2xUSBc ?
- kalleboo 2y ago
  The Apple tech specs page says "Maximum continuous power: 155W" and USB-C PD supports up to 240 W these days, so technically it's doable, although it would be a nightmare with people trying to run it off the far more common lower power supplies (which it would have to reject because it doesn't have a battery to handle if someone suddenly plugs in some high-draw device)
andreasley 2y ago
Why would you prefer an external power brick? The internal power supplies in Mac minis have been extremely reliable and the fewer cables the better, in my opinion.
- fckgw 2y ago
  Plus you would lose a USB-C port to power
  - makeitdouble 2y ago
    They can surely add another USB-C port, it would take the space of the current power socket so space wise it shouldn't be an issue either.
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- makeitdouble 2y ago
  There can be advantages to an external brick, but I see parent's comment mostly centered on having USB-C as input. That gives a lot more options IMHO on how to handle power for this machine, including portability, even if it's supposed to be a desktop machine. I thought the same for the minisforum machines which would be competitive to this, they have a 19V input that really should be USB-C at this point.
  - barfingclouds 2y ago
    I bought a portable AC battery for my Mac mini for $65. Hard agree though that it would be a lot cooler if the conversion was in the cable so I could just do dc in. The thing is, M chips run so efficiently that even with the power loss from conversion, it’s still pulling less power than a lot of PCs. But yeah it running on a sleek dc battery would be a lot cooler
    - canuckintime 2y ago
      could you share the link to the portable AC battery?
kytazo 2y ago
USB-PD as of its last revision can deliver up to 240W.

spacedcowboy 2y ago

How could you supply enough power on one input USBc to source sufficient power on 3xTB5 + 2xUSBc ?

kalleboo 2y ago
The Apple tech specs page says "Maximum continuous power: 155W" and USB-C PD supports up to 240 W these days, so technically it's doable, although it would be a nightmare with people trying to run it off the far more common lower power supplies (which it would have to reject because it doesn't have a battery to handle if someone suddenly plugs in some high-draw device)

andreasley 2y ago

Why would you prefer an external power brick? The internal power supplies in Mac minis have been extremely reliable and the fewer cables the better, in my opinion.

fckgw 2y ago
Plus you would lose a USB-C port to power
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  They can surely add another USB-C port, it would take the space of the current power socket so space wise it shouldn't be an issue either.
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makeitdouble 2y ago
There can be advantages to an external brick, but I see parent's comment mostly centered on having USB-C as input. That gives a lot more options IMHO on how to handle power for this machine, including portability, even if it's supposed to be a desktop machine. I thought the same for the minisforum machines which would be competitive to this, they have a 19V input that really should be USB-C at this point.
- barfingclouds 2y ago
  I bought a portable AC battery for my Mac mini for $65. Hard agree though that it would be a lot cooler if the conversion was in the cable so I could just do dc in. The thing is, M chips run so efficiently that even with the power loss from conversion, it’s still pulling less power than a lot of PCs. But yeah it running on a sleek dc battery would be a lot cooler
  - canuckintime 2y ago
    could you share the link to the portable AC battery?

kytazo 2y ago

USB-PD as of its last revision can deliver up to 240W.