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Is it really a big deal for megaproject? Not like someone wouldn't know what elasticsearch is or where to look for source code. Yeah, there are billions of peop

by jve 2y ago

Is it really a big deal for megaproject? Not like someone wouldn't know what elasticsearch is or where to look for source code. Yeah, there are billions of people on planet and some may be casually exploring some repository tops and stumbling upon and getting to know elasticsearch that way. But if one wants to find solution for search, I don't think github stars matter.

horsawlarway 2y ago
Yeah, stars/watches don't seem like a huge deal to me - but the fork part is pretty bad. It breaks the upstream connection between repos for all the forks.
- xeraa 2y ago
  GitHub support can (and currently is) restore all of that. The fork network should already be fixed for Elasticsearch again [I work for Elastic]
  - dmezzetti 2y ago
    Good to know. There was a similarly popular project that didn't get this benefit (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758).
    - xeraa 2y ago
      8 years ago someone accidentally deleted the elasticsearch repository (thinking it was their private fork ). Back then everything was restored, so I hope we get there again this time too
      - dmezzetti 2y ago
        I hope so too. I'm the maintainer of a reasonably popular project (~9K stars) and it's certainly a nightmare scenario given that I consider the stars to give it credibility in a crowded space.
dmezzetti 2y ago
You can read about one experience from a few years ago here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 I guess ES has enough brand recognition. But it'd be killer for a lesser known project. While stars don't matter per se, they do give a project some credibility over a project with 0 stars or 50 stars. If someone looked at both Elasticsearch and Opensearch and was new to the area, they'd think Opensearch was the original and ES the fork.
matt_heimer 2y ago
At the very least it would be embarrassing that OpenSearch has 9.7k stars and ElasticSearch has 187 stars. It also seems to factor into github search, OpenSearch is on the first page and ElasticSearch is nowhere to be found. https://github.com/search?q=search&type=repositories https://github.com/search?q=search&type=repositories When I see that a project as been forked I use these stats to help select which fork to go with.

by jve 2y ago

horsawlarway 2y ago

Yeah, stars/watches don't seem like a huge deal to me - but the fork part is pretty bad. It breaks the upstream connection between repos for all the forks.

xeraa 2y ago
GitHub support can (and currently is) restore all of that. The fork network should already be fixed for Elasticsearch again [I work for Elastic]
- dmezzetti 2y ago
  Good to know. There was a similarly popular project that didn't get this benefit (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758).
  - xeraa 2y ago
    8 years ago someone accidentally deleted the elasticsearch repository (thinking it was their private fork ). Back then everything was restored, so I hope we get there again this time too
    - dmezzetti 2y ago
      I hope so too. I'm the maintainer of a reasonably popular project (~9K stars) and it's certainly a nightmare scenario given that I consider the stars to give it credibility in a crowded space.

dmezzetti 2y ago

You can read about one experience from a few years ago here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31033758 I guess ES has enough brand recognition. But it'd be killer for a lesser known project. While stars don't matter per se, they do give a project some credibility over a project with 0 stars or 50 stars. If someone looked at both Elasticsearch and Opensearch and was new to the area, they'd think Opensearch was the original and ES the fork.

matt_heimer 2y ago

At the very least it would be embarrassing that OpenSearch has 9.7k stars and ElasticSearch has 187 stars. It also seems to factor into github search, OpenSearch is on the first page and ElasticSearch is nowhere to be found. https://github.com/search?q=search&type=repositories https://github.com/search?q=search&type=repositories When I see that a project as been forked I use these stats to help select which fork to go with.