I agree. What doesn't get enough attention in these often dogmatic debates is that there are some native conventions that are hugely important for usability whi

I agree. What doesn't get enough attention in these often dogmatic debates is that there are some native conventions that are hugely important for usability while others are mostly irrelevant. E.g, I have to use a Java app on the Mac that uses Ctrl+V rather than Cmd+V for paste as well as other Windows/Linux keyboard conventions. This is extremely jarring. Web apps never do that. Browsers are pretty good at using native conventions where it matters by default. Of course web devs sometimes go out of their way to vandalise the browser's perfectly good defaults - e.g. by overriding scrolling behaviour. Surprisingly, some of Apple's own native apps (such as Numbers) break platform conventions in ways that makes the app extremely inconvenient to use.