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> but I know that's down to the developer so I won't hold that against Flutter. That is absolutely an issue with Flutter, which throws away the underlying plat

by dwaite 2y ago

> but I know that's down to the developer so I won't hold that against Flutter. That is absolutely an issue with Flutter, which throws away the underlying platform UX and draws to a canvas. It gives you relatively few tools to target "native look" controls for each platform without maintaining multiple UIs in parallel composed of entirely different widgets.

nottorp 2y ago
> the underlying platform UX and draws to a canvas Frame buffer? Canvas is the javascript term.
- Nekit1234007 2y ago
  Flutter uses canvas when targeting the web. (At least it was the last time I looked at it years ago)
  - nottorp 2y ago
    Canvas is the javascript name for writing directly to a frame buffer :) There is a world outside the browser. For now.
    - metalliqaz 2y ago
      Canvas predates javascript. For example, TCL's TK toolkit uses Canvas[1] [1] https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/canvas.html https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/canvas.html
- tauntz 2y ago
  It's not specific nor limited to javascript. The term "canvas" in this context is much older and seems to be used across many platforms. Random examples from the (desktop) Java/Android/iOS world where the same semantics is used: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/awt/Canvas.html https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/awt/Canvas.ht... https://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Canvas https://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Can... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Canvas https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Canvas
  - nottorp 2y ago
    You may notice that the first reference is from java, and i bet js lifted it from there. They may have been aware of java because they lifted the name too. The other two are too new to be relevant.
satvikpendem 2y ago
Typically people just make the app look and work the same in all platforms, like how you might expect a responsive web app to be like; no one is implementing Notion with a platform specific UI, for example, using Apple stuff on Apple devices or Windows stuff on Windows devices.

by dwaite 2y ago

nottorp 2y ago

> the underlying platform UX and draws to a canvas Frame buffer? Canvas is the javascript term.

Nekit1234007 2y ago
Flutter uses canvas when targeting the web. (At least it was the last time I looked at it years ago)
- nottorp 2y ago
  Canvas is the javascript name for writing directly to a frame buffer :) There is a world outside the browser. For now.
  - metalliqaz 2y ago
    Canvas predates javascript. For example, TCL's TK toolkit uses Canvas[1] [1] https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/canvas.html https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/canvas.html
tauntz 2y ago
It's not specific nor limited to javascript. The term "canvas" in this context is much older and seems to be used across many platforms. Random examples from the (desktop) Java/Android/iOS world where the same semantics is used: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/awt/Canvas.html https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/awt/Canvas.ht... https://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Canvas https://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Can... https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Canvas https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Canvas
- nottorp 2y ago
  You may notice that the first reference is from java, and i bet js lifted it from there. They may have been aware of java because they lifted the name too. The other two are too new to be relevant.

satvikpendem 2y ago

Typically people just make the app look and work the same in all platforms, like how you might expect a responsive web app to be like; no one is implementing Notion with a platform specific UI, for example, using Apple stuff on Apple devices or Windows stuff on Windows devices.