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> music is not like math That's going to age beautifully
by pentaphobe 2y ago
> music is not like math
That's going to age beautifully
- santiagobasulto 2y agoYeah, my bad, I was mostly referring to "music industry". Music is 100% like math. Music is math, and math is music. Edit: inb4, I did read Hofstadter's Gödel, Escher, Bach.
- pentaphobe 2y agoHehe, honestly I just assume everyone here has a copy of GEB (or has infused it into their being) But yeah, I read TC's post as being less "you can't play music without formal theory" and more "taking a music appreciation class won't (solely) imbue you with the ability to play violin" ...nor would a course which provides a cursory pass over advanced concepts give you applicable (let alone employable) skills without at least a little of the manual labour needed to really feel the intuitions (?) There probably _are_ some undiscovered clever ways to teach foundations such that you form useful or higher level synaptic links faster - but does seem you still need to then add some brute force to gain adequate fluency.. PS. I don't think that excludes the possibility of Ramanujans or Dizzy Gillespies existing - whether your hard work is unstructured or structured, top-down or bottom up, the key point is - beyond a superficial level there are eventually "no shortcuts"
- santiagobasulto 2y ago> I don't think that excludes the possibility of Ramanujans or Dizzy Gillespies existing I wholeheartedly agree with this.
- sambapa 2y agoNo, music is not like math in that sense. Music is like math in the sense that carpentry is like music or math, or sports are like music or math. You can't be a spectator, you have to grind thousands upon thousands of exercises to be good in it.