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Thanks! Much to mull over! Concede that im most sympathetic to leonine foxes (post-philodemus-patch though?). “Effective” leaders, in my book, have to give the

Thanks! Much to mull over! Concede that im most sympathetic to leonine foxes (post-philodemus-patch though?). “Effective” leaders, in my book, have to give the people (先-後-不） what they want emotionally, and yet go against their will rather openly (risking assasination) Or maybe thats vulpine lions in your book? (Compare orwell “offering struggle”)

082349872349872 2y ago
Young Pioneers certainly offered the drums and flags, and even bugles, as a bonus. It depends how openly: leonine foxes when less; vulpine lions when more. (if the 不 or even 後 don't notice words and deeds don't match, that's their problem) Note that Kipling, in trying to keep his protagonist heroic, fobbed off all the fraud on a henchbird. [when Rikki puts Nagaina in a fork with the last egg, (a) he had not planned to do so, and (b) his threat is forceful, not fraudulent] more tk on offering struggle
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  while I continue to underrate the emotional appeal of offering struggle: — Isn't there something in living dangerously? — There's a great deal in it. Men and women must have their adrenals stimulated from time to time. — What? — It's one of the conditions of perfect health. That's why we've made the V.P.S. treatments compulsory. — V.P.S.? — Violent Passion Surrogate. Regularly once a month. We flood the whole system with adrenin. It's the complete physiological equivalent of fear and rage. All the tonic effects of murdering Desdemona and being murdered by Othello, without any of the inconvenience.
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    2 things (in addition to your above VPS) that i urgently need to pay attention to [im procrastinating! Thanks to lizard brain survivalism? Was deluged by the not-meh HN graviton thread; i dont even know if any logician (what about Krivine/Koerner, you think?) knows the name of the county— the country* is “quantum gravity”.]: - What did “the moral of equivalent of war” mean [WJ, but also JEC,J]. is it related to VPS - Instinctive reverence is it nonsense, or something to practise over a lifetime? *of which nothing is known but the name, pace PC Ps: went looking here on HN histories also for the ideological arrows (via Marion Milner) between Montaigne & Montesquieu*. similar to Borodin & Linebarger iyho? Alert me to de Maistre if necessary *direct ideological ancestor of Jane Jacobs?
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Oops: Krivine => Girard
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        potentially interesting (1936) https://www.cs.huji.ac.il/w~lehmann/nonmon/Birkhoff_vonNeumann.pdf https://www.cs.huji.ac.il/w~lehmann/nonmon/Birkhoff_vonNeuma...
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      I doubt the logicians do; the most applied of the bunch I can think of is Büchi, who proved the equivalence between finite automata and monadic second-order logic. (I've written elsewhere than people can cue off of context-dependent grammars, but other mammals are limited to regexps; now that I think about it more, they may even mostly operate in the star-free first-order regime... [but thinking about that a bit more, I'd say most people also prefer limited logic cues])
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      In PC's reminiscence, I only make it up to ~1955 (where at least I can identify a capital city and currency) before I also am reduced to knowing little of the countries but their names. (am I understanding properly that a Nuclear Operator is one which, despite operating on infinite dimensions, still has a finite trace? Or have I lost the trail, following false spoor?) Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OEron4rXfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OEron4rXfk EDIT: although I am interested in the idea of Fourier-like analyses for noncommutative semigroups? Also, zeta functions have something of the folding/unfolding origami nature to them, going between bulk and individual data? Can you expand upon PC's commutative triangle by any chance? π_T = φ; π_X (written here algebraically because HN* is a little unsupportive of the geometric.) * like the soldier who supposedly heard "Nōlī turbāre circulōs meōs"?
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      VPS is complementary to MEOW; when WJ writes: > "Dogs, would you live forever?" shouted Frederick the Great. "Yes," say our utopians, "let us live forever, and raise our level gradually." he's within epsilon of Orwell's Tin Pacifists. But without both Bildung and VPS (I get my adrenalin dumps from sport*, and note that since I stopped fencing I suffer in winter from lack of regular VPS) there is very little attractive to: — What do we want? — Gradual change! — When do we want it? — In due course! * there is a lot to be said for the kind of tournament weekend where during the days everyone tries to kill each other, and then in the evenings everyone parties together — almost like a "pie in the sky when you die" the vikings would've wished for? EDIT: note that WJ channels Plato's Guardians. I don't know what metaphor JEC used but suspect he would've reached for a christian metaphor. JFK went for the pseudo-martial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPnJXXX5Ic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPnJXXX5Ic Lagniappe: (PH) The road to wisdom? -- Well, it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again but less and less and less. EDIT2: 向前一小步文明一大步 EDIT3: TK, UKlG in Dispossessed on youth being as suited for anarchy as they are for military service...

082349872349872 2y ago

Young Pioneers certainly offered the drums and flags, and even bugles, as a bonus. It depends how openly: leonine foxes when less; vulpine lions when more. (if the 不 or even 後 don't notice words and deeds don't match, that's their problem) Note that Kipling, in trying to keep his protagonist heroic, fobbed off all the fraud on a henchbird. [when Rikki puts Nagaina in a fork with the last egg, (a) he had not planned to do so, and (b) his threat is forceful, not fraudulent] more tk on offering struggle

082349872349872 2y ago
while I continue to underrate the emotional appeal of offering struggle: — Isn't there something in living dangerously? — There's a great deal in it. Men and women must have their adrenals stimulated from time to time. — What? — It's one of the conditions of perfect health. That's why we've made the V.P.S. treatments compulsory. — V.P.S.? — Violent Passion Surrogate. Regularly once a month. We flood the whole system with adrenin. It's the complete physiological equivalent of fear and rage. All the tonic effects of murdering Desdemona and being murdered by Othello, without any of the inconvenience.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  2 things (in addition to your above VPS) that i urgently need to pay attention to [im procrastinating! Thanks to lizard brain survivalism? Was deluged by the not-meh HN graviton thread; i dont even know if any logician (what about Krivine/Koerner, you think?) knows the name of the county— the country* is “quantum gravity”.]: - What did “the moral of equivalent of war” mean [WJ, but also JEC,J]. is it related to VPS - Instinctive reverence is it nonsense, or something to practise over a lifetime? *of which nothing is known but the name, pace PC Ps: went looking here on HN histories also for the ideological arrows (via Marion Milner) between Montaigne & Montesquieu*. similar to Borodin & Linebarger iyho? Alert me to de Maistre if necessary *direct ideological ancestor of Jane Jacobs?
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    Oops: Krivine => Girard
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      potentially interesting (1936) https://www.cs.huji.ac.il/w~lehmann/nonmon/Birkhoff_vonNeumann.pdf https://www.cs.huji.ac.il/w~lehmann/nonmon/Birkhoff_vonNeuma...
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    I doubt the logicians do; the most applied of the bunch I can think of is Büchi, who proved the equivalence between finite automata and monadic second-order logic. (I've written elsewhere than people can cue off of context-dependent grammars, but other mammals are limited to regexps; now that I think about it more, they may even mostly operate in the star-free first-order regime... [but thinking about that a bit more, I'd say most people also prefer limited logic cues])
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    In PC's reminiscence, I only make it up to ~1955 (where at least I can identify a capital city and currency) before I also am reduced to knowing little of the countries but their names. (am I understanding properly that a Nuclear Operator is one which, despite operating on infinite dimensions, still has a finite trace? Or have I lost the trail, following false spoor?) Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OEron4rXfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OEron4rXfk EDIT: although I am interested in the idea of Fourier-like analyses for noncommutative semigroups? Also, zeta functions have something of the folding/unfolding origami nature to them, going between bulk and individual data? Can you expand upon PC's commutative triangle by any chance? π_T = φ; π_X (written here algebraically because HN* is a little unsupportive of the geometric.) * like the soldier who supposedly heard "Nōlī turbāre circulōs meōs"?
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    VPS is complementary to MEOW; when WJ writes: > "Dogs, would you live forever?" shouted Frederick the Great. "Yes," say our utopians, "let us live forever, and raise our level gradually." he's within epsilon of Orwell's Tin Pacifists. But without both Bildung and VPS (I get my adrenalin dumps from sport*, and note that since I stopped fencing I suffer in winter from lack of regular VPS) there is very little attractive to: — What do we want? — Gradual change! — When do we want it? — In due course! * there is a lot to be said for the kind of tournament weekend where during the days everyone tries to kill each other, and then in the evenings everyone parties together — almost like a "pie in the sky when you die" the vikings would've wished for? EDIT: note that WJ channels Plato's Guardians. I don't know what metaphor JEC used but suspect he would've reached for a christian metaphor. JFK went for the pseudo-martial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPnJXXX5Ic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwPnJXXX5Ic Lagniappe: (PH) The road to wisdom? -- Well, it's plain and simple to express: Err and err and err again but less and less and less. EDIT2: 向前一小步文明一大步 EDIT3: TK, UKlG in Dispossessed on youth being as suited for anarchy as they are for military service...