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Politics had a large part in creating this situation. Women have made up the majority of college graduates for about half a century now. And yet we still hear t

Politics had a large part in creating this situation. Women have made up the majority of college graduates for about half a century now. And yet we still hear that we need more women in college, and in fact there are far more times as many college scholarships for women as for men. Not to mention that women make up the majority of government benefit recipients, and piles of other examples. This entire time, politicians have made lots of gains from supporting women. Where is the support for men?

tpm 2y ago
You are talking about American politics, meanwhile this is happenning all over the world, in some countries much sooner and faster than in the US.
- DrPimienta 2y ago
  Yes, the same cancerous ideologies are spreading quickly to the rest of the world.
mrguyorama 2y ago
>Where is the support for men? Where are the men willing to put in the hard work it takes to build man-positive spaces that talk about difficult subjects with men, and guide them through growing up into caring people? Instead, it seems like men just want the world to go back to the way it was, and they would rather women suffer than they have to put in the leg work required to build a fair and just society. That's what this horseshit is about. Millions of men are facing a small amount of pain adjusting to a world where you aren't default accepted based on having a penis, and their first response is "No, time to oppress women again". Women faced all sorts of pushback for decades for wanting to be more than baby making machines. They literally still are, with one presidential candidate and his friends openly hostile to independent and self-sufficient women. They (most of them) still fight for their rights and still fight for the betterment of women in general. It's going to be difficult, social change always is. It's going to take decades, social change always does. It won't be perfect. But I'd still rather a future society where men can be how they want even if it doesn't match some absurd and self destructive ideal of "masculinity" that doesn't let you be a human being, rather than going back to the 50s in terms of letting women be independent. My mother did not work her ass off for 60 years for people like in this damn comment section to claim that they should go back to the kitchen, that they don't have bodily autonomy, that they don't have fiscal autonomy. I will fight for her. Men will get a lot more support when they stop insisting the lack of male spaces and positive male role models is somehow women's fault, when they've worked their asses off for decades. It's not a fucking zero sum game!
- DrPimienta 2y ago
  >Where are the men willing to put in the hard work it takes to build man-positive spaces that talk about difficult subjects with men, and guide them through growing up into caring people? Those types of spaces get shut down by governments/colleges at the behest of women. See the male-only domestic violence shelters in Canada and the US. Or the story about the college that shut down the male mental health day, resulting in the suicide of at least one of its male students. I'm not reading the rest of your absurd drivel. Men make up the majority of suicide victims, homeless, and violence. They get fewer scholarships and fewer government handouts, because those things typically only go to women on the basis of them being female. The pay gap doesn't exist, it is explained entirely by men choosing to work longer hours. I'm sorry you can't understand any of this and that reality bothers you, but that's your problem and not anyone else's.

tpm 2y ago

You are talking about American politics, meanwhile this is happenning all over the world, in some countries much sooner and faster than in the US.

DrPimienta 2y ago
Yes, the same cancerous ideologies are spreading quickly to the rest of the world.

mrguyorama 2y ago

>Where is the support for men? Where are the men willing to put in the hard work it takes to build man-positive spaces that talk about difficult subjects with men, and guide them through growing up into caring people? Instead, it seems like men just want the world to go back to the way it was, and they would rather women suffer than they have to put in the leg work required to build a fair and just society. That's what this horseshit is about. Millions of men are facing a small amount of pain adjusting to a world where you aren't default accepted based on having a penis, and their first response is "No, time to oppress women again". Women faced all sorts of pushback for decades for wanting to be more than baby making machines. They literally still are, with one presidential candidate and his friends openly hostile to independent and self-sufficient women. They (most of them) still fight for their rights and still fight for the betterment of women in general. It's going to be difficult, social change always is. It's going to take decades, social change always does. It won't be perfect. But I'd still rather a future society where men can be how they want even if it doesn't match some absurd and self destructive ideal of "masculinity" that doesn't let you be a human being, rather than going back to the 50s in terms of letting women be independent. My mother did not work her ass off for 60 years for people like in this damn comment section to claim that they should go back to the kitchen, that they don't have bodily autonomy, that they don't have fiscal autonomy. I will fight for her. Men will get a lot more support when they stop insisting the lack of male spaces and positive male role models is somehow women's fault, when they've worked their asses off for decades. It's not a fucking zero sum game!

DrPimienta 2y ago
>Where are the men willing to put in the hard work it takes to build man-positive spaces that talk about difficult subjects with men, and guide them through growing up into caring people? Those types of spaces get shut down by governments/colleges at the behest of women. See the male-only domestic violence shelters in Canada and the US. Or the story about the college that shut down the male mental health day, resulting in the suicide of at least one of its male students. I'm not reading the rest of your absurd drivel. Men make up the majority of suicide victims, homeless, and violence. They get fewer scholarships and fewer government handouts, because those things typically only go to women on the basis of them being female. The pay gap doesn't exist, it is explained entirely by men choosing to work longer hours. I'm sorry you can't understand any of this and that reality bothers you, but that's your problem and not anyone else's.