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What you described isn’t what the Bible said. The truth is much better. Also, I have a hypothesis on the creation question you asked. I’ll attempt to address al
by nickpsecurity 2y ago
What you described isn’t what the Bible said. The truth is much better. Also, I have a hypothesis on the creation question you asked. I’ll attempt to address all of that briefly.
On creation, most human creators make fake worlds that have vast universes in them at a certain age. Within their universes, the creator often focuses on a few people or places to tell a story. They rapidly create their world, not slowly evolve it. They do it to receive praise from those they show it to who they also give joy to. We get those habits from God who unsurprisingly designed this universe the same way.
The Word of God tells the story of who God is (for worship), who we are (explains suffering), and who Jesus is (our redemption). It also tells us how to live for stable, peaceful, loving, and just societies. Then, promises an eternity like that.
It came often through people with supernatural abilities claiming to speak for God. (Most writings don’t.) Witnesses included every type of person, the history was stronger, miracles followed the Gospel everywhere, and lives changed for the better. This happened in thousands of people groups using the same message from Jewish authors from 2000 years ago. Only that message.
To address more in your comment. God actually started with two people near Africa (later confirmed by science) who were in a paradise. Given autonomy (a gift), people chose to betray God, lie, cover, murder, sexual immorality, and even sacrifice their own kids. Even if shown mercy, people kept opposing God or making evil choices. Your comment presupposed He owes evil people something good. A just God owes them nothing but punishment.
Instead, God shows His love for us in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. God gives up the riches of heaven to pursue His creation who ran from and even were willing to kill Him. Each that merely repents and chooses Him, He not only forgives: He puts His Spirit in them with promised, amazing effects (testable predictions). He’ll also never let us go which is proven, He says, by the fixed laws of this universe (constants) and Christ’s perfect character.
Far as by committee, the Old Testament was meticulously copied with careful checking. The New Testament writings were mostly agreed on by the churches. They came from holy men who sometimes worked miracles which non-Christian religions couldn’t do. A devout Christian translated them originally with others doing the same from manuscripts close to the original.
Scholars say around 2 million variations have been detected in copying with nearly 100% not changing the meaning of a single line. And others don’t cancel a single doctrine. And Christ’s miracles, death, and resurrection are attested by all. Anyone who studies transmission of human ideas knows that’s so improbable, esp in groups arguing with each other, that the consistency of the Bible is itself almost a miracle.
You will not find in secular ideologies perfect love, forgiveness, justice, miracles, life-changing power, global impact on every type of person, and thousands of years of consistency. This is unique to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It proves He is true to His Word.
You want to repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus Christ today? There’s nothing better! :)
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoIs this one of the new bots spamming people with different interest groups? A Christ GPT? So the book tells you what to believe, including to believe in the book. Any questions, the book is the answer. Is there any reason to believe in this book? Yes, the book tells me to believe in the book. Where do you get your beliefs? The book. But humans wrote the book. The Book tells me to believe in the book. Really? You don't see anything circular in this? You can literally make up anything and use this exact same logic to justify it. This is the basis of every religion. Just make it up, and it is self justifying. The religion tells you what to believe including why the source of the religion makes it the one religion.
- nickpsecurity 2y agoYou ignored most of my logical points, called me a GPT, and set up a strawman (believe a book cuz the book says). I don’t believe you’re a bot because many people reply that way to Christians. Christ predicted it, too. Have a blessed day.
- FrustratedMonky 2y agoYou are missing the point, that all of your points come from that book. What is the point of arguing point by point from the book if they are all self referential. There is no argument, if you believe in the book, then your points make sense to you. If someone doesn't believe in the book, then all of the other points are based on nothing. You can't argue with someone's beliefs. If you believe the sun revolves around the earth, and all you can see is the sunrise and sunset, how do I argue with you. You'll believe what you want. People reply this way "many people reply that way to Christians. Christ predicted it, too." Yes of course. Because people thinking with logic can come to these same conclusions, and respond this same way. I am sure you have heard this before. And, Christ predicted it? I'm sure he did. A lot of religious leaders say others will respond this way. It is a common trope to keep cult members in line, "ignore the infidels, they will question your true faith, they will cloud your mind with logic, but ours is beyond logic". Sorry. I've been down all of these arguments. I've stopped trying to argue with the true believers. Logic isn't going to win any battles with someone living in a dream world.