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> Seems like a small thing but it's really not: I appreciate your use of "alcohol and other drugs"; the phrase you'll hear 99% of the time is "drugs and alcohol
by The_Colonel 2y ago
> Seems like a small thing but it's really not: I appreciate your use of "alcohol and other drugs"; the phrase you'll hear 99% of the time is "drugs and alcohol", where alcohol tries to avoid being lotted in with people using drugs they don't like.
"drugs" often means illegal drugs in colloquial use while alcohol is legal in most places, so the distinction has a use.
> I want to draw attention to how Singapore in particular somehow gets a pass for literal state-sponsored murder for smoking a joint instead of drinking a beer.
I wonder what's your motivation for such an extreme exaggeration. The article you linked quite clearly states that the "punishment" for consuming is a 6 months rehibilation which, while quite harsh, is very far from your claim of death penalty. You need to possess 500 grams of Marijuana to get the death penalty which is like a 1000 or more joints.
- pixelpoet 2y agoI think it's crazy to be sentenced to death for having 500 grams of cannabis. Nobody is going to overdose on it, almost nobody is going to make a business of it if it were actually legal, ... this isn't a heroin, meth or even moonshine operation we're talking about. Is there really a way to overstate the insanity of state-sponsored killing people for this? Please let's not stray too far from the subject of, what justification for killing this drug user are you looking for?
- The_Colonel 2y ago> I think it's crazy to be sentenced to death for having 500 grams of cannabis. I think it's a bad law, but surely not as bad as you originally tried to mislead people into believing. > Is there really a way to overstate the insanity of state-sponsored killing people for this? Apparently yes, by intentionally making a false claim that you get executed for smoking a joint. > Please let's not stray too far from the subject of, what justification for killing this drug user are you looking for? They won't get executed for being a drug user, but for trafficking drugs. Given that 500 grams is a huge amount, I think it's reasonable to consider the offenders to be drug traffickers (even if I don't agree with the punishment).
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- malermeister 2y agoA single plant can easily produce 500 grams. In other words - you could be killed for growing one plant for your own personal consumption.
- The_Colonel 2y agoThat's an extreme upper range for specific strains under ideal conditions which you aren't likely to achieve as a simple consumer. It's certainly very easy to stay under this limit if you're growing at home. It's difficult to cross that threshold accidentally, for sure.
- mythrwy 2y agoThis is not true at all. 500 grams is roughly a pound. 2 pounds (or more) of trimmed flower per plant is very achievable growing outdoors with many strains (not autoflowers).
- The_Colonel 2y agoWe're talking here about 500 grams of dried buds, the final product.
- mythrwy 2y agoYes, we are. 1-2 pound(s)+ (dried flower) is very easily achievable outdoors from a single plant with most strains. 4 or 5 pounds+ dried product from a single plant is not unheard of. Cannabis can get extremely large. (this is actually inconsequential to the point of the article I just wanted to point it out).
- throwaway19972 2y agoThis response reads to me as, at best, a bad faith intepretation of hyperbole. It seems very obvious why someone could get worked up over demonizing a relatively benign psychedelic over literal poison that is responsible for myriad health issues and daily violence. If you can't meet in the middle and actually discuss the substance of the topic rather than nitpicking their comment, why comment at all?
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