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> The 48V architecture is the optimal long-term choice, requiring ¼ of the current to deliver the same amount of power. Is there a reason why 48V is better lon
by unsnap_biceps 2y ago
> The 48V architecture is the optimal long-term choice, requiring ¼ of the current to deliver the same amount of power.
Is there a reason why 48V is better long term than going higher like 96V?
- two_handfuls 2y agoI believe 50V is a safety limit.
- cptcobalt 2y agoBelow 50v is considered "low voltage". Higher voltage would require different safety considerations.
- outworlder 2y agoAnd that's because of your skin resistance. Around 50V is when voltage starts to overcome it.
- rcxdude 2y agousually. It's very possible to get a shock off of significantly lower voltages in bad conditions (very sweaty skin, for example).
- hmottestad 2y ago48v is probably more common than 96v in general, so more components available already.
- 8note 2y agoFor which - why standardize around this connector and not XLR, which is the first thing that comes to mind for 48V? Too big/bulky?
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- zaxomi 2y agoThe phantom power at 48 volts used with XLR connectors only have a current at about 10 milliampere. Enough to supply power to a little microphone. The connector is bulky and of metal, and designed to be used inside. It's also expensive compared to other connectors. There are a lot of cheaper, more suitable connectors, designed to carry power.
- matrix2003 2y agoAs mentioned in another comment, it’s also close to the safety limit for low voltage systems. IMO solar pioneered (in recent history) 48V DC systems, which is an easy multiple of 12V to stay below the 50V “high voltage” safety threshold. It allowed people to use smaller gauge wire and chain together multiple 12V batteries that are readily available.
- bryanlarsen 2y agoTelephony has been using -48V as a line voltage for a very long time, probably > 100 years.
- matrix2003 2y agoIs that for power deliver, or signaling?
- Kirby64 2y agoBoth. It powers old school telephones.
- p_l 2y ago-48VDC was standard for powering telephone equipment, and is also common standard for direct current datacenter connections. Signaling on POTS easily hit over 100V, btw.
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoI remember getting zapped when the phone rang when I was a teenager back in the 70's. Good times.
- Plasmoid 2y agoAt some point, safety. A short/failure at 100V is much more dangerous than at 50V. Both from a fire-safety perspective as well as an electrocution risk perspective.
- cyberax 2y agoOther people already mentioned safety. But you can actually go to 96V if needed by running a cable with -48V if you need extra power. One another advantage of the new 48V architecture is that it doesn't depend on the car body for the current return path. This opens up possibilities of adding sensors that detect current leakage, to pinpoint areas with defective wiring and/or components.
- zaxomi 2y agoDepending on the country you live in, the laws might allow you to do work on equipment that is below 50 volts, but require you to be a certified electrician for anything above that.