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Definitely not just Medium. It's everywhere. I have noticed that someone immediately calls out pretty much every bit of content as AI generated, whether it ob

Definitely not just Medium. It's everywhere. I have noticed that someone immediately calls out pretty much every bit of content as AI generated, whether it obviously is or not. I guess this is a best case scenario. I do wonder what will spring up next to allow high quality content to be found.

minimaxir 2y ago
That's more a consequence of "AI" becoming a synonym for "always bad" in creative spaces (and inversely "if it's bad, it must be AI-generated"), despite the fact that there's some nuance there.
- spwa4 2y ago
  You forget exactly who is complaining that AI is always bad, with no nuance. It's a bit like observing that in every book and movie writers have a very strong tendency to be rich superheroes with incredible morals and 50 admirers on every finger.
welder 2y ago
Yep, I analyzed bot activity recently on PH. [0] I think it's only going to get more common. [0] https://wakatime.com/blog/67-bots-so-many-bots https://wakatime.com/blog/67-bots-so-many-bots
caekislove 2y ago
That sounds exactly like what an AI would say!
- gamerDude 2y ago
  This is clearly just a bot responding.
jsheard 2y ago
There's so many LLM bots on Twitter now, presumably trying to game the revenue sharing system. Some of them even seem to be getting fancy with multi-modal models because they try to respond to the content of images rather than just the text like they used to do.
- TechDebtDevin 2y ago
  Yeah these people are morons. Likely building networks to market crypto scams/fake onlyfans accounts.
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
True, I'm always making sure my Kindle is face down when I'm not using it so that my coworkers don't think I'm reading whatever insane AI slop Title Amazon happens to be advertising to me at the moment. I really don't see how these people making the ebooks are making any money on these books either since they cost 99 cents and they pay for advertising. Maybe they're using llama2 idk lmao, either way I've seen a ton of embarrassing titles pop up on there and don't want people thinking I'm interested in that slop.
- exe34 2y ago
  jail broke mine years ago and never allowed it online again. I do not tolerate ads on a device I bought.
baq 2y ago
Yeah this is all very dystopian. I don't see a 'pay to publish' scheme working, neither do I see 'pay to read'. Maybe I could see 'pay to prove humanity' working, but the Voight-Kampff test is expensive, inaccurate and can be gamed, and accounts which passed it will be sold. We're between a rock and a hard place with the internet's collective signal to noise ratio plummeting and no easy way to fix it.
scruple 2y ago
Speaking of everywhere... My Google results are absolutely flooded with this shit now and it's driving me crazy. It won't be long before site searching (site:reddit.ciom/r/whatever, etc.) is similarly plagued. It's very frustrating! SEO was annoying but there was still value in the results. Now, as soon as I detect or start to believe some result is AI bullshit I immediately close the tab out.
nicbou 2y ago
Human curation will become more and more valuable, perhaps precisely because it does not scale. You know which travel advice I prefer? The one from a small, local blogger that loves their city. You know where I find my music? At house parties. More and more, I also crawl the profiles of individual users for content that I might like. The cosy web is my refuge from scale and its consequences.
- the_snooze 2y ago
  >precisely because it does not scale. And that lack of scale means it has little mass monetization potential. It's actively hostile to weirdos just trying to make a buck. I don't get randos from who-knows-where trying to hawk their wares in my private group chats, so those recommendations actually carry weight.
EasyMark 2y ago
I suspect more sites like wikipedia and the old bbs forums but ones maybe that require an actual ID step, which sucks but might be the only way. Or maybe something like Musk did but a one time $10 fee. Most bots won’t pay up to spread their crap and when they do their numbers should be gated enough by $10 that it won’t take much effort to kick them for abusing the system

minimaxir 2y ago

That's more a consequence of "AI" becoming a synonym for "always bad" in creative spaces (and inversely "if it's bad, it must be AI-generated"), despite the fact that there's some nuance there.

spwa4 2y ago
You forget exactly who is complaining that AI is always bad, with no nuance. It's a bit like observing that in every book and movie writers have a very strong tendency to be rich superheroes with incredible morals and 50 admirers on every finger.

welder 2y ago

Yep, I analyzed bot activity recently on PH. [0] I think it's only going to get more common. [0] https://wakatime.com/blog/67-bots-so-many-bots https://wakatime.com/blog/67-bots-so-many-bots

caekislove 2y ago

That sounds exactly like what an AI would say!

gamerDude 2y ago
This is clearly just a bot responding.

jsheard 2y ago

There's so many LLM bots on Twitter now, presumably trying to game the revenue sharing system. Some of them even seem to be getting fancy with multi-modal models because they try to respond to the content of images rather than just the text like they used to do.

TechDebtDevin 2y ago
Yeah these people are morons. Likely building networks to market crypto scams/fake onlyfans accounts.

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

True, I'm always making sure my Kindle is face down when I'm not using it so that my coworkers don't think I'm reading whatever insane AI slop Title Amazon happens to be advertising to me at the moment. I really don't see how these people making the ebooks are making any money on these books either since they cost 99 cents and they pay for advertising. Maybe they're using llama2 idk lmao, either way I've seen a ton of embarrassing titles pop up on there and don't want people thinking I'm interested in that slop.

exe34 2y ago
jail broke mine years ago and never allowed it online again. I do not tolerate ads on a device I bought.

baq 2y ago

Yeah this is all very dystopian. I don't see a 'pay to publish' scheme working, neither do I see 'pay to read'. Maybe I could see 'pay to prove humanity' working, but the Voight-Kampff test is expensive, inaccurate and can be gamed, and accounts which passed it will be sold. We're between a rock and a hard place with the internet's collective signal to noise ratio plummeting and no easy way to fix it.

scruple 2y ago

Speaking of everywhere... My Google results are absolutely flooded with this shit now and it's driving me crazy. It won't be long before site searching (site:reddit.ciom/r/whatever, etc.) is similarly plagued. It's very frustrating! SEO was annoying but there was still value in the results. Now, as soon as I detect or start to believe some result is AI bullshit I immediately close the tab out.

nicbou 2y ago

Human curation will become more and more valuable, perhaps precisely because it does not scale. You know which travel advice I prefer? The one from a small, local blogger that loves their city. You know where I find my music? At house parties. More and more, I also crawl the profiles of individual users for content that I might like. The cosy web is my refuge from scale and its consequences.

the_snooze 2y ago
>precisely because it does not scale. And that lack of scale means it has little mass monetization potential. It's actively hostile to weirdos just trying to make a buck. I don't get randos from who-knows-where trying to hawk their wares in my private group chats, so those recommendations actually carry weight.

EasyMark 2y ago

I suspect more sites like wikipedia and the old bbs forums but ones maybe that require an actual ID step, which sucks but might be the only way. Or maybe something like Musk did but a one time $10 fee. Most bots won’t pay up to spread their crap and when they do their numbers should be gated enough by $10 that it won’t take much effort to kick them for abusing the system