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The ridiculous amount of warning time and the ridiculously quick time to get an entire days charge are good design.

viraptor 2y ago
And all of that doesn't change the fact that I ended up without a charge a few times and threw the MM in the bin. With the replacement, I just plug the cable in and continue using it. I don't even know how fast it charges / how long it lasts, because charging doesn't disrupt the usage.
- stephenr 2y ago
  If you're unable to acknowledge basic information like "battery is low" and respond accordingly within several days nor able to wait a few seconds to get enough charge to last through your super critical meeting/whatever, I guess Apples mouse just isn't for you. That's fine. It's why we have choices. Now if you'll excuse me I must get back to complaining ad nauseam to strangers about how much I hate a mouse I don't use. Oh wait no I don't.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    Yup, that mouse isn't for me. It's also not for a number of people who end up buying it. That's how reviews work: people who had negative experience talk about it so others like that (you know who you are) will not buy that mouse. We also talk about software/hardware design here. Acknowledging that wider accessibility means designing for people behaving in different ways and it saves you from years of repeated complaints - that's also important.
    - Klonoar 2y ago
      This isn’t an accessibility issue, this is a “stop putting your head in the sand” issue.
  - eviks 2y ago
    But what you're doing is even worse - complaining to strangers about legitimate complaints of strangers
    - stephenr 2y ago
      As evidenced by other responders, no it isn't a legitimate complaint. Every time it's mentioned people come out of the woodwork to complain about "how can I use it while it's charging". Meanwhile the people that actually use one know that isn't an issue - and rebut the complaints.
- BobAliceInATree 2y ago
  Given that it has a lithium ion battery and you’re very much not supposed to put it in a bin, i’m not surprised you ignored a low battery warning for weeks.
talldayo 2y ago
Right, imagine how much better my Magic Trackpad would be if I had to leave it unplugged while I was using it! ...not.
al_borland 2y ago
That isn't good design, it's a bandaid on bad design.
eviks 2y ago
But still doesn't excuse the bad design of the port location
- tommit 2y ago
  I'm personally not saying that excuses it, but I've once read that it was an absolutely conscious decision by Apple to put the port where it is. A lot of people tend to simply leave the mouse plugged into a cable when using it, even once it's charged. Apple is famous for the image that they would like their products to convey. They don't want people leaving the mouse plugged in because it's convenient or they're unable to act on a month-long warning. They want to force you to use the mouse as it was designed -- wireless. I'm not saying it's good, I don't have one myself and I plainly don't like the ergonomics of it. I like the look and I think I would be able to work around the port-location constraint, but it just doesn't feel nice to hold. Pretty to look at, though.

And all of that doesn't change the fact that I ended up without a charge a few times and threw the MM in the bin. With the replacement, I just plug the cable in and continue using it. I don't even know how fast it charges / how long it lasts, because charging doesn't disrupt the usage.

stephenr 2y ago
If you're unable to acknowledge basic information like "battery is low" and respond accordingly within several days nor able to wait a few seconds to get enough charge to last through your super critical meeting/whatever, I guess Apples mouse just isn't for you. That's fine. It's why we have choices. Now if you'll excuse me I must get back to complaining ad nauseam to strangers about how much I hate a mouse I don't use. Oh wait no I don't.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Yup, that mouse isn't for me. It's also not for a number of people who end up buying it. That's how reviews work: people who had negative experience talk about it so others like that (you know who you are) will not buy that mouse. We also talk about software/hardware design here. Acknowledging that wider accessibility means designing for people behaving in different ways and it saves you from years of repeated complaints - that's also important.
  - Klonoar 2y ago
    This isn’t an accessibility issue, this is a “stop putting your head in the sand” issue.
- eviks 2y ago
  But what you're doing is even worse - complaining to strangers about legitimate complaints of strangers
  - stephenr 2y ago
    As evidenced by other responders, no it isn't a legitimate complaint. Every time it's mentioned people come out of the woodwork to complain about "how can I use it while it's charging". Meanwhile the people that actually use one know that isn't an issue - and rebut the complaints.
BobAliceInATree 2y ago
Given that it has a lithium ion battery and you’re very much not supposed to put it in a bin, i’m not surprised you ignored a low battery warning for weeks.

talldayo 2y ago

Right, imagine how much better my Magic Trackpad would be if I had to leave it unplugged while I was using it! ...not.

al_borland 2y ago

That isn't good design, it's a bandaid on bad design.

eviks 2y ago

But still doesn't excuse the bad design of the port location

tommit 2y ago
I'm personally not saying that excuses it, but I've once read that it was an absolutely conscious decision by Apple to put the port where it is. A lot of people tend to simply leave the mouse plugged into a cable when using it, even once it's charged. Apple is famous for the image that they would like their products to convey. They don't want people leaving the mouse plugged in because it's convenient or they're unable to act on a month-long warning. They want to force you to use the mouse as it was designed -- wireless. I'm not saying it's good, I don't have one myself and I plainly don't like the ergonomics of it. I like the look and I think I would be able to work around the port-location constraint, but it just doesn't feel nice to hold. Pretty to look at, though.