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Cannot Search for Joe Rogan Trump Interview on YouTube

33 points by _1tem 2y ago

ravenstine 2y ago
Not surprising. YouTube for a very long time now has quite obviously had a list of keywords that trigger the search results to only return videos from the mainstream media. EDIT: Go ahead and downvote me, but just know that YouTube behaves this way regardless of political party.
legitster 2y ago
While everyone is going to want to jump to some sort of blatant collusion, some points to make: - The interview got heavily recommended to me via the algorithm - Search clearly doesn't mind pulling up official clips or even more blatantly right-wing channels - This has been a known behavior for YouTube search for quite some time YouTube doesn't reveal much about how their search or their algorithm is designed, but this happens a lot for me when I look for specific videos. My guess is they seem to favor driving people in search to smaller channels, more "family-friendly" clips, less watched videos, and overall better monetized content.
- viridian 2y ago
  What I find strange is that I was able to search it last night no problem, but just tried and now I can't. It's not the only change that went live today as far as I can tell though, it seems like they are also A/B testing not showing view counts on the home page based on other twitter posts.
- seivan 2y ago
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viridian 2y ago
Just tried, this is weird, not even a direct video title match worked. For reference, I can confirm that as of around Midnight EST, I was able to pull up the video as the first result, so something changed in that 10 hour span on Youtube's side. Also searching for any number of things on google.com still gives you the podcast first result. I am always curious (and inevitably disappointed) about what goes on behind the scenes at the companies with stuff like this. Like, what meetings or policies drive this sort of thing?
- hulitu 2y ago
  > Like, what meetings or policies drive this sort of thing? A phone call ? /s Corruption is everywhere. Big companies spend a lot a money for lobby, that's why they don't want to upset politicians.
jerlam 2y ago
Sounds similar to what happened with ProZD's video which wasn't political or controversial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dSkkEr-wk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dSkkEr-wk follow up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIH9Tu718rw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIH9Tu718rw It was flagged internally as high-risk and removed from the search rankings.
caekislove 2y ago
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sergiotapia 2y ago
"It takes effort for a search engine not to be able to find an interview with 34M views between the biggest podcaster in the world and the most famous person in the world."
mindcrash 2y ago
Sundar Pichai and Neal Mohan better pray that Trump will not win, because if he does Alphabet, Google and Youtube in their current form are 100% done. And Satya Nadella and Microsoft are next: https://www.bing.com/search?q=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl= https://www.bing.com/search?q=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghc=1&... Zero links to the actual interview aswell.
- seivan 2y ago
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sdeep27 2y ago
Just tried >joe rogan trump and it was the first result for me

33 points by _1tem 2y ago

Not surprising. YouTube for a very long time now has quite obviously had a list of keywords that trigger the search results to only return videos from the mainstream media. EDIT: Go ahead and downvote me, but just know that YouTube behaves this way regardless of political party.

legitster 2y ago

While everyone is going to want to jump to some sort of blatant collusion, some points to make: - The interview got heavily recommended to me via the algorithm - Search clearly doesn't mind pulling up official clips or even more blatantly right-wing channels - This has been a known behavior for YouTube search for quite some time YouTube doesn't reveal much about how their search or their algorithm is designed, but this happens a lot for me when I look for specific videos. My guess is they seem to favor driving people in search to smaller channels, more "family-friendly" clips, less watched videos, and overall better monetized content.

viridian 2y ago
What I find strange is that I was able to search it last night no problem, but just tried and now I can't. It's not the only change that went live today as far as I can tell though, it seems like they are also A/B testing not showing view counts on the home page based on other twitter posts.
seivan 2y ago
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viridian 2y ago

Just tried, this is weird, not even a direct video title match worked. For reference, I can confirm that as of around Midnight EST, I was able to pull up the video as the first result, so something changed in that 10 hour span on Youtube's side. Also searching for any number of things on google.com still gives you the podcast first result. I am always curious (and inevitably disappointed) about what goes on behind the scenes at the companies with stuff like this. Like, what meetings or policies drive this sort of thing?

hulitu 2y ago
> Like, what meetings or policies drive this sort of thing? A phone call ? /s Corruption is everywhere. Big companies spend a lot a money for lobby, that's why they don't want to upset politicians.

jerlam 2y ago

Sounds similar to what happened with ProZD's video which wasn't political or controversial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dSkkEr-wk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dSkkEr-wk follow up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIH9Tu718rw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIH9Tu718rw It was flagged internally as high-risk and removed from the search rankings.

caekislove 2y ago

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sergiotapia 2y ago

"It takes effort for a search engine not to be able to find an interview with 34M views between the biggest podcaster in the world and the most famous person in the world."

mindcrash 2y ago

Sundar Pichai and Neal Mohan better pray that Trump will not win, because if he does Alphabet, Google and Youtube in their current form are 100% done. And Satya Nadella and Microsoft are next: https://www.bing.com/search?q=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl= https://www.bing.com/search?q=joe+rogan+trump+youtube&ghc=1&... Zero links to the actual interview aswell.

seivan 2y ago
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sdeep27 2y ago

Just tried >joe rogan trump and it was the first result for me