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Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on t

Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on the Mac? Certainly, most AAA titles do not. >Compared to the most popular 24-inch all-in-one PC with the latest Intel Core 7 processor, the new iMac is up to 4.5x faster. You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them.

theflyinghorse 2y ago
A few games do work on mac. Factorio, Baldur's Gate 3 etc
vundercind 2y ago
> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them. Nobody’s buying a Mac to game. The gaming is a bonus for a segment of their market, is why they mention it at all. Zero Mac sales are motivated primarily by gaming. “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?” are things their prospective buyers might wonder, not “should I buy this if I want a gaming computer?” (No, obviously)
- nox101 2y ago
  Yes except so few games run. Even games I suspect don't need the power. Examples: Cocoon, ufo50, Outer wilds, Harold Halibut, Noita > “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?” I think the answer is "No". I'm writing this from a Mac. In the last year, so many games I've wanted to play while traveling, someone tells me about it, I go check it out, no mac version. I just have to wait until I get home. Sometimes I get lucky, "A Short Hike", but more often than not there's no Mac version.
  - vundercind 2y ago
    If you want to play almost any possible game, yeah, you need a PC. (I have one. And a Steam Deck. I kinda half-regret taking up gaming as a hobby any time I touch either of those, but not quite enough to ditch them) If you’re flexible on what you play, it might be fine for gaming. Like someone with a Switch might be like “eh, sure I’d like to play the new Assassins Creed, but not enough to get a PlayStation—my kids want the Switch, and I don’t want two consoles, so I’ll just find stuff to play on here instead.” I think that’s the market-segment they’re talking to when they write ad or marketing copy about Mac gaming capabilities.
Wytwwww 2y ago
> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them Why would anyone buy a Porsche? You can buy an F-150 with a >1 ton payload capacity, fit 6 people in it and if you get the EV version it might be even faster than the base config Porsche. The PC will take up a lot of space, use a lot more power, be loud and be look ugly. Some people might care about these things even if you don't.
- sunshowers 2y ago
  To be honest it's the Mac that feels clunky, at least compared to Linux. Why does every app have its own updater? Why are the animations so painfully slow?
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  - Wytwwww 2y ago
    That's fair. People have different preferences. I personally don't even really care much for macOS these days.. > every app have its own updater Well certainly not all due. But mainly because they are not part of the OS/distribution. And it's not like there arent any proprietary apps on Linux that have to be installed/updated independently. Also you can use the App Store if you are so inclined. IMHO an awful experience but still better than the extremely laggy GUI app stores on Gnome/KDE.
    - sunshowers 2y ago
      Maybe more recent versions of macOS have made it better (last I used it was in 2020), but I remember the app store being really slow at everything. KDE Discover is a bit slow but feels like it functions better overall.
  - sgt 2y ago
    Sounds like you haven't really used macOS a lot. What is this thing about every app having its own updater? Animations slow? It's like the polar opposite, and I've been using macOS since it was called Mac OS X in 2003. IMHO the biggest asset of the macOS ecosystem is the OS itself - not the HW (which of course helps). But the OS is incredibly good as a desktop Unix.
Mainsail 2y ago
Games I play on my M1 Macbook Air: - BG3 - CIV - Stardew Valley - Football Manager - Subnautica - XCOM - ARMA 3
- dlivingston 2y ago
  Stray and Myst for me!

theflyinghorse 2y ago

A few games do work on mac. Factorio, Baldur's Gate 3 etc

vundercind 2y ago

> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them. Nobody’s buying a Mac to game. The gaming is a bonus for a segment of their market, is why they mention it at all. Zero Mac sales are motivated primarily by gaming. “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?” are things their prospective buyers might wonder, not “should I buy this if I want a gaming computer?” (No, obviously)

nox101 2y ago
Yes except so few games run. Even games I suspect don't need the power. Examples: Cocoon, ufo50, Outer wilds, Harold Halibut, Noita > “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?” I think the answer is "No". I'm writing this from a Mac. In the last year, so many games I've wanted to play while traveling, someone tells me about it, I go check it out, no mac version. I just have to wait until I get home. Sometimes I get lucky, "A Short Hike", but more often than not there's no Mac version.
- vundercind 2y ago
  If you want to play almost any possible game, yeah, you need a PC. (I have one. And a Steam Deck. I kinda half-regret taking up gaming as a hobby any time I touch either of those, but not quite enough to ditch them) If you’re flexible on what you play, it might be fine for gaming. Like someone with a Switch might be like “eh, sure I’d like to play the new Assassins Creed, but not enough to get a PlayStation—my kids want the Switch, and I don’t want two consoles, so I’ll just find stuff to play on here instead.” I think that’s the market-segment they’re talking to when they write ad or marketing copy about Mac gaming capabilities.

Wytwwww 2y ago

> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them Why would anyone buy a Porsche? You can buy an F-150 with a >1 ton payload capacity, fit 6 people in it and if you get the EV version it might be even faster than the base config Porsche. The PC will take up a lot of space, use a lot more power, be loud and be look ugly. Some people might care about these things even if you don't.

sunshowers 2y ago
To be honest it's the Mac that feels clunky, at least compared to Linux. Why does every app have its own updater? Why are the animations so painfully slow?
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- Wytwwww 2y ago
  That's fair. People have different preferences. I personally don't even really care much for macOS these days.. > every app have its own updater Well certainly not all due. But mainly because they are not part of the OS/distribution. And it's not like there arent any proprietary apps on Linux that have to be installed/updated independently. Also you can use the App Store if you are so inclined. IMHO an awful experience but still better than the extremely laggy GUI app stores on Gnome/KDE.
  - sunshowers 2y ago
    Maybe more recent versions of macOS have made it better (last I used it was in 2020), but I remember the app store being really slow at everything. KDE Discover is a bit slow but feels like it functions better overall.
- sgt 2y ago
  Sounds like you haven't really used macOS a lot. What is this thing about every app having its own updater? Animations slow? It's like the polar opposite, and I've been using macOS since it was called Mac OS X in 2003. IMHO the biggest asset of the macOS ecosystem is the OS itself - not the HW (which of course helps). But the OS is incredibly good as a desktop Unix.

Mainsail 2y ago

Games I play on my M1 Macbook Air: - BG3 - CIV - Stardew Valley - Football Manager - Subnautica - XCOM - ARMA 3

dlivingston 2y ago
Stray and Myst for me!