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Science doesn’t work that way. Many phenomenon that happen in small ways don’t happen in large ways. A person hits a golf ball a long distance, a basketball is

Science doesn’t work that way. Many phenomenon that happen in small ways don’t happen in large ways. A person hits a golf ball a long distance, a basketball is round, and therefore it should do that, too. A person observing golf, but not physics, might extrapolate that. It’s not until they experiment with the other claims that they learn the two behave differently. They’ll eventually learn principles of nature that say what’s possible for that small, dense ball is impossible for that larger, hollow ball. Likewise, many mechanisms found in science, esp biology, work only in local ways with limited or no use outside that. They might require their environment to exist to even work at all with no increments allowed. They might also work with other components in a precise way where neither separate nor incomplete combinations will work. For this reason, we can’t extrapolate much in biology without experiments to verify that. Then, I question why you’d be extrapolating that. Observations of the fossil record show no stream of intermediate forms in most species. Instead, we see extinctions followed by fully-grown animals appearing out of nowhere. Today, we observe zero… zero!… animals changing from one type into another. Everything tastes like chicken because the chickens are still chickens. :) So, your default positions should be these things: much evidence from adaptation within existing forms, billion plus examples against macro-evolution happening in a 2,000 year window, large-scale changes causing organism’ deaths, and changes being so hard to humans’ knowledge can’t create novel creature from existing ones. This combination of observed, replicated data should lead you to default on an intelligent designer, God or something else, being needed to create ultra-high-complexity changes to creatures along with it not happening often. Second, you should treat macro-evolution as falsified since it failed all its predictions. It doesn’t bother me as a scientist at all to say God created and sustains the universe by His will. And made man and the animals. And then drives the universe’s machinery to work in the ways we observe, which includes adaptation (micro-evolution). This fits all observations from complexity theory to universe fine-tuning to how all the laws are elegantly connected to the miracle of self-reproducing/maintaining life forms. Then, the Word of God (Bible) separately explains Jesus Christ did it to redeem us from evil to live with our Creator enjoying Him and His creations forever. That’s revelatory, not empirical, knowledge. Studying the creation is great but knowing the Creator is better. Especially seeing Him modify the laws of the universe to makes specific things happen in response to our needs or prayers. If anything, science deepened my knowlege of how powerful and good God must be.

FrustratedMonky 2y ago
I can't tell if this is joking or not. ? So. A god, created the universe, in all its hugeness and complexity, and kicked it off to run by a set of rules. (which technically could have life anywhere). Then On this one planet Earth. He lets 100's of religions take root and flourish. Then this god cherry picks a few tribes wondering in the desert and says 'You guys are my dudes'. And here are some commandments about only worshiping me. BUT, he doesn't let anybody else know, just these tribes wondering around in the middle east. And then. You are believing all of this, because it was written in a book, hundreds of years after the fact, and was edited by a committee. (which isn't disputed by most Christians). And based on all this, you believe you are scientific, and believing this can enrich your scientific understanding of the Universe? WTF?
- nickpsecurity 2y ago
  What you described isn’t what the Bible said. The truth is much better. Also, I have a hypothesis on the creation question you asked. I’ll attempt to address all of that briefly. On creation, most human creators make fake worlds that have vast universes in them at a certain age. Within their universes, the creator often focuses on a few people or places to tell a story. They rapidly create their world, not slowly evolve it. They do it to receive praise from those they show it to who they also give joy to. We get those habits from God who unsurprisingly designed this universe the same way. The Word of God tells the story of who God is (for worship), who we are (explains suffering), and who Jesus is (our redemption). It also tells us how to live for stable, peaceful, loving, and just societies. Then, promises an eternity like that. It came often through people with supernatural abilities claiming to speak for God. (Most writings don’t.) Witnesses included every type of person, the history was stronger, miracles followed the Gospel everywhere, and lives changed for the better. This happened in thousands of people groups using the same message from Jewish authors from 2000 years ago. Only that message. To address more in your comment. God actually started with two people near Africa (later confirmed by science) who were in a paradise. Given autonomy (a gift), people chose to betray God, lie, cover, murder, sexual immorality, and even sacrifice their own kids. Even if shown mercy, people kept opposing God or making evil choices. Your comment presupposed He owes evil people something good. A just God owes them nothing but punishment. Instead, God shows His love for us in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. God gives up the riches of heaven to pursue His creation who ran from and even were willing to kill Him. Each that merely repents and chooses Him, He not only forgives: He puts His Spirit in them with promised, amazing effects (testable predictions). He’ll also never let us go which is proven, He says, by the fixed laws of this universe (constants) and Christ’s perfect character. Far as by committee, the Old Testament was meticulously copied with careful checking. The New Testament writings were mostly agreed on by the churches. They came from holy men who sometimes worked miracles which non-Christian religions couldn’t do. A devout Christian translated them originally with others doing the same from manuscripts close to the original. Scholars say around 2 million variations have been detected in copying with nearly 100% not changing the meaning of a single line. And others don’t cancel a single doctrine. And Christ’s miracles, death, and resurrection are attested by all. Anyone who studies transmission of human ideas knows that’s so improbable, esp in groups arguing with each other, that the consistency of the Bible is itself almost a miracle. You will not find in secular ideologies perfect love, forgiveness, justice, miracles, life-changing power, global impact on every type of person, and thousands of years of consistency. This is unique to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It proves He is true to His Word. You want to repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus Christ today? There’s nothing better! :)

FrustratedMonky 2y ago

I can't tell if this is joking or not. ? So. A god, created the universe, in all its hugeness and complexity, and kicked it off to run by a set of rules. (which technically could have life anywhere). Then On this one planet Earth. He lets 100's of religions take root and flourish. Then this god cherry picks a few tribes wondering in the desert and says 'You guys are my dudes'. And here are some commandments about only worshiping me. BUT, he doesn't let anybody else know, just these tribes wondering around in the middle east. And then. You are believing all of this, because it was written in a book, hundreds of years after the fact, and was edited by a committee. (which isn't disputed by most Christians). And based on all this, you believe you are scientific, and believing this can enrich your scientific understanding of the Universe? WTF?

nickpsecurity 2y ago
What you described isn’t what the Bible said. The truth is much better. Also, I have a hypothesis on the creation question you asked. I’ll attempt to address all of that briefly. On creation, most human creators make fake worlds that have vast universes in them at a certain age. Within their universes, the creator often focuses on a few people or places to tell a story. They rapidly create their world, not slowly evolve it. They do it to receive praise from those they show it to who they also give joy to. We get those habits from God who unsurprisingly designed this universe the same way. The Word of God tells the story of who God is (for worship), who we are (explains suffering), and who Jesus is (our redemption). It also tells us how to live for stable, peaceful, loving, and just societies. Then, promises an eternity like that. It came often through people with supernatural abilities claiming to speak for God. (Most writings don’t.) Witnesses included every type of person, the history was stronger, miracles followed the Gospel everywhere, and lives changed for the better. This happened in thousands of people groups using the same message from Jewish authors from 2000 years ago. Only that message. To address more in your comment. God actually started with two people near Africa (later confirmed by science) who were in a paradise. Given autonomy (a gift), people chose to betray God, lie, cover, murder, sexual immorality, and even sacrifice their own kids. Even if shown mercy, people kept opposing God or making evil choices. Your comment presupposed He owes evil people something good. A just God owes them nothing but punishment. Instead, God shows His love for us in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. God gives up the riches of heaven to pursue His creation who ran from and even were willing to kill Him. Each that merely repents and chooses Him, He not only forgives: He puts His Spirit in them with promised, amazing effects (testable predictions). He’ll also never let us go which is proven, He says, by the fixed laws of this universe (constants) and Christ’s perfect character. Far as by committee, the Old Testament was meticulously copied with careful checking. The New Testament writings were mostly agreed on by the churches. They came from holy men who sometimes worked miracles which non-Christian religions couldn’t do. A devout Christian translated them originally with others doing the same from manuscripts close to the original. Scholars say around 2 million variations have been detected in copying with nearly 100% not changing the meaning of a single line. And others don’t cancel a single doctrine. And Christ’s miracles, death, and resurrection are attested by all. Anyone who studies transmission of human ideas knows that’s so improbable, esp in groups arguing with each other, that the consistency of the Bible is itself almost a miracle. You will not find in secular ideologies perfect love, forgiveness, justice, miracles, life-changing power, global impact on every type of person, and thousands of years of consistency. This is unique to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It proves He is true to His Word. You want to repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus Christ today? There’s nothing better! :)