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No, because normal healthy children do not require 24/7 care, even as newborns. Children in care do, partly because of the circumstances that led to them being

No, because normal healthy children do not require 24/7 care, even as newborns. Children in care do, partly because of the circumstances that led to them being in care, but mostly because the State in general is not willing to accept the same risk profile as individual parents.

mrweasel 2y ago
I think it comes down to the many meaning of the word "care" in English. The state is certainly willing to accept way greater risk than the individual parent, in many circumstances. If we take something like daycare, which I presume is included in "care", then it's typically four children per adult until the age of 4, in schools it goes down to 20+ children per one adult, where at home it might be more than two adults per child (but also less obviously). The risk profile is different, if you have a newborn in hospital, then that child may have their parent present at all times, plus staff, but it might also be one or two nurses and an on-call doctor for any number of babies. In some sense the potential risk is greater, but it's also more professionally measured.
- closewith 2y ago
  >The state is certainly willing to accept way greater risk than the individual parent, in many circumstances. I don't think that's true. > If we take something like daycare, which I presume is included in "care", then it's typically four children per adult until the age of 4, in schools it goes down to 20+ children per one adult, where at home it might be more than two adults per child (but also less obviously). That's a much lower care ratio than parents accepted before regulation, so I think you're arguing against your own point here.
  - mrweasel 2y ago
    Those ratios are heavily debated in Denmark for being absolutely terrible. Parents have been complaining for years that the ratio of especially children for 4 to 6 are awful (typically 7 children per adult). They might be a improvement in other countries, but they are considered a move in the wrong direction here, because they are worse than previously.

mrweasel 2y ago

I think it comes down to the many meaning of the word "care" in English. The state is certainly willing to accept way greater risk than the individual parent, in many circumstances. If we take something like daycare, which I presume is included in "care", then it's typically four children per adult until the age of 4, in schools it goes down to 20+ children per one adult, where at home it might be more than two adults per child (but also less obviously). The risk profile is different, if you have a newborn in hospital, then that child may have their parent present at all times, plus staff, but it might also be one or two nurses and an on-call doctor for any number of babies. In some sense the potential risk is greater, but it's also more professionally measured.

closewith 2y ago
>The state is certainly willing to accept way greater risk than the individual parent, in many circumstances. I don't think that's true. > If we take something like daycare, which I presume is included in "care", then it's typically four children per adult until the age of 4, in schools it goes down to 20+ children per one adult, where at home it might be more than two adults per child (but also less obviously). That's a much lower care ratio than parents accepted before regulation, so I think you're arguing against your own point here.
- mrweasel 2y ago
  Those ratios are heavily debated in Denmark for being absolutely terrible. Parents have been complaining for years that the ratio of especially children for 4 to 6 are awful (typically 7 children per adult). They might be a improvement in other countries, but they are considered a move in the wrong direction here, because they are worse than previously.