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Isn't that like asking if Boeings flights aren't covered by life insurance? Car insurance companies know the costs, and they have open listings of the car bran

Isn't that like asking if Boeings flights aren't covered by life insurance? Car insurance companies know the costs, and they have open listings of the car brands. They have literally all incentives in play to stay truthful. Compared to whatever PR we are force-fed a jour.

anonfordays 2y ago
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- otterley 2y ago
  Don't call someone here a liar unless you have clear and convincing evidence of it. The OP never said that they laid out cash for these repairs. On a repair invoice, the shop usually lists the cost, then it's paid for by the manufacturer at the bottom. It's all normal accounting for the back office. If you've ever owned a car that had warranty repairs, regardless of make or model, you'd see this.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    >Don't call someone here a liar unless you have clear and convincing evidence of it. The post in and of itself is clear and convincing evidence. >On a repair invoice, the shop usually lists the cost, then it's paid for by the manufacturer at the bottom. It's all normal accounting for the back office. If you've ever owned a car that had warranty repairs, regardless of make or model, you'd see this. That's not how any of this works for Tesla though, there are no "shops" you take it to, only Tesla service centers do warranty work. The prices listed for warranty work are always "$0.00", never listing how much any of it costs. The post is clearly a LARP.
    - otterley 2y ago
      > The post in and of itself is clear and convincing evidence. I'm pretty sure no jury would agree with that. > That's not how any of this works for Tesla though, there are no "shops" you take it to, only Tesla service centers do warranty work. The prices listed for warranty work are always "$0.00", never listing how much any of it costs. I admit I'm not a Tesla owner and don't have direct experience, but I do see posts that contradict this assertion: * https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-service-invoice-for-in-warranty-diagnosis.156059/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-service-invoic... * https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/17wnts6/comment/k9j8cmu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/17wnts6/commen...
      - anonfordays 2y ago
        >I'm pretty sure no jury would agree with that. I'm pretty sure every jury would agree with that. >I admit I'm not a Tesla owner and don't have direct experience, but I do see posts that contradict this assertion: Those posts prove my point exactly. One of them literally states: "Yes, but usually when I sign something for warranty work. The dollar amt on the paper is $0."
        otterley 2y ago
        We are in agreement about the bottom line. Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. The experience of whether they're seeing estimated values (even if not paid) seems to vary by customer.
        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. Yes they did: We have put roughly 10k into this truck for service.
        otterley 2y ago
        I should have been clearer: they didn't claim they paid for the work that was covered under the warranty. Slashed tires and other vandalism and body damage due to accidents obviously aren't covered and those repairs would have to be borne by the customer. (It's also true that those things aren't the results of defects and thus aren't directly Tesla's fault.)

anonfordays 2y ago

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otterley 2y ago
Don't call someone here a liar unless you have clear and convincing evidence of it. The OP never said that they laid out cash for these repairs. On a repair invoice, the shop usually lists the cost, then it's paid for by the manufacturer at the bottom. It's all normal accounting for the back office. If you've ever owned a car that had warranty repairs, regardless of make or model, you'd see this.
- anonfordays 2y ago
  >Don't call someone here a liar unless you have clear and convincing evidence of it. The post in and of itself is clear and convincing evidence. >On a repair invoice, the shop usually lists the cost, then it's paid for by the manufacturer at the bottom. It's all normal accounting for the back office. If you've ever owned a car that had warranty repairs, regardless of make or model, you'd see this. That's not how any of this works for Tesla though, there are no "shops" you take it to, only Tesla service centers do warranty work. The prices listed for warranty work are always "$0.00", never listing how much any of it costs. The post is clearly a LARP.
  - otterley 2y ago
    > The post in and of itself is clear and convincing evidence. I'm pretty sure no jury would agree with that. > That's not how any of this works for Tesla though, there are no "shops" you take it to, only Tesla service centers do warranty work. The prices listed for warranty work are always "$0.00", never listing how much any of it costs. I admit I'm not a Tesla owner and don't have direct experience, but I do see posts that contradict this assertion: * https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-service-invoice-for-in-warranty-diagnosis.156059/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-service-invoic... * https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/17wnts6/comment/k9j8cmu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/17wnts6/commen...
    - anonfordays 2y ago
      >I'm pretty sure no jury would agree with that. I'm pretty sure every jury would agree with that. >I admit I'm not a Tesla owner and don't have direct experience, but I do see posts that contradict this assertion: Those posts prove my point exactly. One of them literally states: "Yes, but usually when I sign something for warranty work. The dollar amt on the paper is $0."
      - otterley 2y ago
        We are in agreement about the bottom line. Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. The experience of whether they're seeing estimated values (even if not paid) seems to vary by customer.
        anonfordays 2y ago
        >Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. Yes they did: We have put roughly 10k into this truck for service.
        otterley 2y ago
        I should have been clearer: they didn't claim they paid for the work that was covered under the warranty. Slashed tires and other vandalism and body damage due to accidents obviously aren't covered and those repairs would have to be borne by the customer. (It's also true that those things aren't the results of defects and thus aren't directly Tesla's fault.)