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Wikipedia has an explainer called "Verifiability, Not Truth". It was quite popular to reference this during disputes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V
by AStonesThrow 2y ago
Wikipedia has an explainer called "Verifiability, Not Truth". It was quite popular to reference this during disputes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability,_not_truth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability,_not_t...
It was deprecated to "essay" status a while ago, because it was quite controversial, but not because it was inaccurate.
Wikipedia is not involved in the business of publishing Truth. Wikipedia's articles are based on Verifiability, which means that the assertions can be backed up and traced to the reliable sources that are provided alongside them.
If there is a dichotomy or controversy about the "truth" of a fact, well, then, Wikipedia documents that controversy, according to the reliably-published information about it.
Wikipedia projects work within the languages they're published in, for better or worse. That means, a Vietnamese wiki will generally be run by and for people who speak Vietnamese, and will generally rely on sources published in that language. So if there is a consensus about a fact or assertion in Vietnamese-language sources, and it's agreed by people who speak Vietnamese, then it wouldn't be easy to break through that consensus, even if you had a sincerely held belief.
Which brings us to another Wikipedian axiom: WP:RGW.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing#Righting_great_wrongs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing#...
People who edit Wikipedia shouldn't be concerned about "Righting Great Wrongs" through editing or discussion. If there is injustice in the world, it will likely be reflected in Wikipedia, despite striving to be a collegial utopia, it is not usually possible to change the world from activism there, and activist editors are eventually blocked and banned for being non-neutral.
- JSteph22 2y agoIt's a nice claim, but ultimately Wikipedia is publishing its own truth based on the sources it allows or doesn't.
- AStonesThrow 2y agoThat is indeed the key to Wikipedia's systemic bias. By carefully curating their blacklist of sources, they're able to exclude any viewpoints that differ with their majority viewpoint. Wikipedia's "Neutral Point of View" is only neutral when viewed by those who agree with them, for example: mainstream progressive center-left outlets like NYTimes and HuffPo, and scholarly ivory towers such as Oxford/Cambridge/Ivy League.