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Sorry to bust your minuscule lisp bubble but just because someone ignored your favorite niche language in an educated career choice, it doesn't mean they are i

by hu3 2y ago

Sorry to bust your minuscule lisp bubble but just because someone ignored your favorite niche language in an educated career choice, it doesn't mean they are ignorant. Infantile language tribalism though, have no place in engineering and is blatant ignorance when coming from a supposed adult.

xscott 2y ago
If it's about career choices, people skills and charisma will get you further than any technical decisions you might make.
kazinator 2y ago
Lisp is a family of languages, most of which are suited for many purposes. Implementations of Lisp are no more niche than other languages with managed run-times. Lisp has been used for even operating system development: Lisp code taking interrupts, and driving ethernet cards and disks and so on. Which member of the Lisp family are you talking about, and what do you think is the niche?
- hu3 2y ago
  > Implementations of Lisp are no more niche than other languages with managed run-times." No more niche than Java, C# .NET and Python? Right... > Which member of the Lisp family are you talking about, and what do you think is the niche? You can combine all of the Lisp family together and still it wouldn't scratch the popularity, demand or job positions of any of the top languages. Look, nobody denies Lisp'like languages are being used. Just like Fortran. :)
  - kazinator 2y ago
    So what you mean by niche is actually popularity, and not a specific application area? Fortran has a niche: numeric computing in scientific areas. However, even Fortran is not your grandfather's Fortran 66 or 77 any more. I had a semester of the latter once, as part of an engineering curriculum before switching to CS. It supposedly has OOP programming in it, and operator overloading and such. I don't know modern Fortran, so I wouldn't want to look ignorant spreading decades-old misinformation about Fortran.

by hu3 2y ago

xscott 2y ago

If it's about career choices, people skills and charisma will get you further than any technical decisions you might make.

kazinator 2y ago

Lisp is a family of languages, most of which are suited for many purposes. Implementations of Lisp are no more niche than other languages with managed run-times. Lisp has been used for even operating system development: Lisp code taking interrupts, and driving ethernet cards and disks and so on. Which member of the Lisp family are you talking about, and what do you think is the niche?

hu3 2y ago
> Implementations of Lisp are no more niche than other languages with managed run-times." No more niche than Java, C# .NET and Python? Right... > Which member of the Lisp family are you talking about, and what do you think is the niche? You can combine all of the Lisp family together and still it wouldn't scratch the popularity, demand or job positions of any of the top languages. Look, nobody denies Lisp'like languages are being used. Just like Fortran. :)
- kazinator 2y ago
  So what you mean by niche is actually popularity, and not a specific application area? Fortran has a niche: numeric computing in scientific areas. However, even Fortran is not your grandfather's Fortran 66 or 77 any more. I had a semester of the latter once, as part of an engineering curriculum before switching to CS. It supposedly has OOP programming in it, and operator overloading and such. I don't know modern Fortran, so I wouldn't want to look ignorant spreading decades-old misinformation about Fortran.