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Tbh I know it’s not what you’re going for, but your parents’ dietary decisions generally sound based AF (apart from bottled fluoridated water - depending on the
by KempyKolibri 2y ago
Tbh I know it’s not what you’re going for, but your parents’ dietary decisions generally sound based AF (apart from bottled fluoridated water - depending on the fluoride levels in your drinking water that may or may not be beneficial).
Chex, I suppose it depends on whether it was wholegrain or not. Wholegrain cereal is associated with pretty good health benefits, refined not so much.
- tsimionescu 2y agoReplacing butter with Margarine is "based AF" now?
- literalAardvark 2y agoGiven the knowledge available to them in the 70s, yes. A mistake, but done for good reasons (lowering satfat).
- KempyKolibri 2y agoProblem in the 70s was trans fats. Now they're no longer a risk, replacing butter with margarine is a solid evidence-based decision for one's health (though not so much for one's enjoyment!).
- literalAardvark 2y agoHang on, there's such a thing as non-trans margarine? Sheesh, I'm behind the times. (And really, margarine can be plenty tasty. As a kid I actually preferred it to butter for some reason.)
- KempyKolibri 2y agoLiterally all of them now (in the US and UK at least). Trans fats in industrially produced foods are banned.
- literalAardvark 2y agoNot entirely, pastry still has lots of trans fats, but they're probably essential.
- AStonesThrow 2y agoOkay, the cereal commercials in the 1980s: they would have some ridiculous cartoon mascot and sing a catchy jingle about their sugary cereal treats, and then at the end, they were legally required to say "Part of this balanced breakfast" while displaying a tray laden with fresh fruit, buttered toast, perhaps a glass of orange juice. https://youtu.be/reLIPoZQZ-8?si=lLXfhsdm89zlOWsI https://youtu.be/reLIPoZQZ-8?si=lLXfhsdm89zlOWsI Those commercials played multiple times a day in my childhood, and they never failed to piss me off, because they clearly demonstrated that "milk and a box of Chex" was not by any means a "balanced breakfast".
- KempyKolibri 2y agoYes. Not so much at the time when some margarines had trans fats in, but now? Yes, absolutely. The evidence suggests that doing so significantly reduces one's risk of CVD.
- tsimionescu 2y agoI don't think there is much reason to continue taking you seriously if this is supposed to be the sound scientific advice.
- KempyKolibri 2y agoWhy would we believe otherwise? The evidence suggests that replacing butter with margarine reduces LDL-c (see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9771853/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9771853/), and we have an enormous body of evidence showing that LDL-c is a causal agent in atherosclerosis (https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/38/32/2459/3745109 https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/38/32/2459/374510...). So why wouldn’t replacing butter with margarine be a positive step for one’s cardiovascular risk profile?
- dharma1 2y agoNot a big proponent of saturated fats but dietary LDL has only a modest impact on LDL-c - 5-10%. Other things that have similar or larger impact are exercise, reducing sugar intake, not being overweight, and consuming soluble fibre. Plant sterols/stanols also help
- KempyKolibri 2y agoAll of those things are good ideas in addition to replacing SFA with PUFA. Don’t see why it has to be one or the other.
- EasyMark 2y agoThat first study is -tiny- study which is a good data point but hardly worth changing my diet over. I’ve seen plenty of studies saying that butter in moderate usage is just fine, and the war on saturated fats really should have been limited to hydrogenated oils/margarine