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That's a weak argument. Stores are not advertisements.

by drawkward 2y ago

strogonoff 2y ago
Advertisement is the engine of free market. The technological progress made possible with free market and advertisement as its integral part is evidence supporting my argument—yes, the very device you are reading this on is the evidence. You have not provided a viable argument so far. I can’t say you failed to provide supporting evidence, because you have not even made a claim. Inventing a meaningless term like “information paradigm” and implying it has somehow changed is not one. You either lack a point to make, or are struggling to express one.
- drawkward 2y ago
  >advertisement is the engine of free market Repeating something ad nauseam does not make it true. Advertising is just attempted demand generation for otherwise weak product offerings, a ploy to exploit human psychology by appealing to needs to be part of an in group, desire for sexual appeal. It is exploitative and harmful to its viewers. Hows that for a claim?
  - strogonoff 2y ago
    > Advertising is just attempted demand generation for otherwise weak product offerings Just like money is just a vehicle for abuse and fraud. Advertising is disseminating information about a product. The rest is you describing how advertising is abused, which I already addressed in my first comment. Yes, it is also used for malicious and abusive purposes, just like everything else is also used for malicious and abusive purposes. If we talk about things that can be used for bad stuff, how about we start with E2EE comms and cash. The amount of evil, abuse, violence that they directly enable simply drowns out any potential downside of ads. I guess either you want to ban it all, in which case there is no more argument to be had, or you can acknowledge that the world is not black and white and something that can be used for evil can also be a crucial part of an ecosystem.

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That's a weak argument. Stores are not advertisements.

by drawkward 2y ago

That's a weak argument. Stores are not advertisements.

strogonoff 2y ago
Advertisement is the engine of free market. The technological progress made possible with free market and advertisement as its integral part is evidence supporting my argument—yes, the very device you are reading this on is the evidence. You have not provided a viable argument so far. I can’t say you failed to provide supporting evidence, because you have not even made a claim. Inventing a meaningless term like “information paradigm” and implying it has somehow changed is not one. You either lack a point to make, or are struggling to express one.
- drawkward 2y ago
  >advertisement is the engine of free market Repeating something ad nauseam does not make it true. Advertising is just attempted demand generation for otherwise weak product offerings, a ploy to exploit human psychology by appealing to needs to be part of an in group, desire for sexual appeal. It is exploitative and harmful to its viewers. Hows that for a claim?
  - strogonoff 2y ago
    > Advertising is just attempted demand generation for otherwise weak product offerings Just like money is just a vehicle for abuse and fraud. Advertising is disseminating information about a product. The rest is you describing how advertising is abused, which I already addressed in my first comment. Yes, it is also used for malicious and abusive purposes, just like everything else is also used for malicious and abusive purposes. If we talk about things that can be used for bad stuff, how about we start with E2EE comms and cash. The amount of evil, abuse, violence that they directly enable simply drowns out any potential downside of ads. I guess either you want to ban it all, in which case there is no more argument to be had, or you can acknowledge that the world is not black and white and something that can be used for evil can also be a crucial part of an ecosystem.