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Build systems, preprocessors, and C code are made by intelligent designers with precise designs. They are observed in reality, both forming and being iterated o
by nickpsecurity 2y ago
Build systems, preprocessors, and C code are made by intelligent designers with precise designs. They are observed in reality, both forming and being iterated on, with results that work when others replicate them. They prove software requires intelligent designers. Further research on that showed highly-complex software that worked with 100% reliability required the much more intelligence to produce. There's debate in scientific communities, esp in fault-tolerance and formal verification, if our designs could ever achieve the longevity and reliability seen in the mechanics of our universe.
(Now, back to scientists seeing evolution which has none of these attributes of observation-driven science. An overloaded term meaning both adaptation and large-scale changes of which I'll focus on the unproven part.)
We'll start with the scientific method since it's usually absent in some way in these claims. We work from real-world observations to a hypothesis to testing that. There's usually predictions to confirm or falsify the theory. We must be willing to modify it or let it go entirely if we're scientists. There's also peer review by skeptical parties willing to consider alternatives. They're to be weighed on the bases of evidence, not feelings or politics. Dissent is always allowed regardless of credentials or numbers behind mainstream theories.
With this process, you'd have to look at the testable predictions of macro-evolution, observe them happening, observe no contradictions, and review by people who didn't have die-hard faith in evolution. Unfortunately, the theory fails in all of those areas.
First, we never see it happening in reality despite billions of observations over thousands of years. Second, life just appears out of nowhere fully formed in the fossil record, like the Cambrian explosion. Third, the man-made creatures don't change much or live long even under ideal, lab conditions but somehow random events worked better millions of times. Fourth, complexity science along with studies of life and the universe proved both are vastly more complex than initially assumed. We can't create them, esp self-sustaining. Yet, mainstream science keeps believing evolution just happened in a way that kept happening, doesn't now the same way, and just take their word for it. No dissent is allowed either with or without observations or experiments.
Eventually, there's going to be some actual science done. That requires evolution being marked as refuted by observed evidence. (Minor adaptation is proven, though.) They need to ask where we came from with a clean slate. They must factor in complexity theory, evidence of design, what optimization theory taught us about success rate of random vs intelligently-parameterized changes, and observations in programming like design and maintenance requirements. Whatever is predicted must match real-world observations. That will be science.
Christian scientists already do that. Our current theory is that the universe and humans must have been designed by a being whose power exceeds all human knowledge and technology. The purpose isn't scientifically discoverable. The Bible, separately proven, explains it's to know and glorify God (Jesus Christ) and reflect His character as we live together and love each other. The awe of the purpose, beauty, and brilliance of God's overall creation motivates us to dig deeper into it to understand it. That God requires truth to come first is why we can't allow popular, unproven lies about either science (macro-evolution) or theology (false religion).
- virgildotcodes 2y agoThis entire comment is amazing, but I particularly like how evolution is unproven but the Christian bible and existence of Christianity’s version of God are proven. I wonder if we went out into the world which we would find more evidence in favor of? The mind is a frustrating thing.
- nickpsecurity 2y agoThere’s a ton of evidence. Whole books dedicated to it. This is simply never shared or referenced in universities, on TV, or in the press. Systematic suppression. I put a short summary of types of proof available here: https://gethisword.com/evidence.html https://gethisword.com/evidence.html Let’s look at your comparison. Observationally, Jesus existed, did miracles, fulfilled prophecies, manuscripts were higher impact, and millions report similar things today. Far as testable predictions, even His enemies who repent report life transformations and miracles in His name. Macro-evolution has failed to happen billions of times in observed creatures. Bible is evidentially stronger even though not a scientific claim. Also, while experiential evidence grew for the Bible over thousands of years, many scientific theories and philosophies failed instead. Tons of fraud and politics, too. There’s a test of time principle that says you want to build on strong foundations. God’s Word is more trustworthy and reliable over time than scientific claims in general. It’s compatible with good ones, too, since Jesus was full of grace and truth.
- nvk6 2y agoCheck how fast bacteria evolve. Google Antibiotic resistance. Thats not produced through intelligence. Or look at recent examples of Covid strains evolving. There is not intelligence there either. God (or what ever your source of faith is) will always exist, not because of anything Scientists uncover, but because all people are constantly faced with problems that require generation of Faith in themselves or others. If you understand that you dont even need to use Science as part of you argument.
- nickpsecurity 2y agoHave bacteria been witnesses to turn into more complex, totally-different bacteria? And then multi-celled organisms that have never been seen? The jumps that macro-evolution claims like they saw it yesterday are much more complex than bacteria regularly turning into multi-celled organisms. Add that to the list of changes we should be seeing all the time if millions of species evolved this way. Similarly, add it to the list of observations falsifying evolution that bacteria adapt rapidly but never become higher forms. You heavily believe in what you have repeatedly not observed. After sample size hits hundreds of millions to billions, your confidence goes through the roof that this absolutely happened millions of times when you weren’t watching. How is that science if hypotheses and validates theories are built on observed data? If anything, it sounds like a massive amount of faith in an imaginary model that’s the opposite of global observations. This is why we say we (usually) don’t have as much faith as atheists or evolutionists. Many of us have seen multiple examples of answered prayers, miracles, or God speaking to us. What’s predicted keeps happening. Since Darwin, we’ve seen zero examples of bacteria, ants, chickens, or cats turning into other animals. So, you have faith and unrelenting faith at that.