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I am from France and I would say the same thing they do. The traditional left here has been and still is extremely detrimental to the country as a whole and ha

I am from France and I would say the same thing they do. The traditional left here has been and still is extremely detrimental to the country as a whole and has kept from their communist roots - that’s where most of the old guard has been formed - an extremely strong tendency towards control where they would rather destroy anything successful not coming from them than see it prosper. It’s even more sad in France because the main left wing party used to be dominated by its social democrat wing and be somewhat apt to govern but is now decimated and subservient to other more extreme parties which are completely disconnected from reality. Not that the right is any better. They are more and more fascist by the day. We are on a trajectory to do the same mistakes Italy did.

mdp2021 2y ago
> the same mistakes Italy did Italy, I understand, also had had a tradition of conciliation and search for common grounds, a call to the common good. (A drive helped by the fight against a common enemy before the half of the past century.) The grave mistake is polarization, those steps towards a "cold civil war" (that seems now so common around the world). But before that, allowing the twisted stagnate in their dumb lowly positions (like said taste for «destr[uction]» and «disconnect[ion] from reality»), in the disgregation of the societal spirit - a root of the abovesaid polarization. It is a lurking entropic phenomenon requiring active correction, normally through debate, through "talking", productive confrontation; it is not absent in these pages.