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For me, Jellyfin makes my smart TV (running webOS) tolerable. It turns the TV into the appliance it should have been from the start, without ads, AI assistants

For me, Jellyfin makes my smart TV (running webOS) tolerable. It turns the TV into the appliance it should have been from the start, without ads, AI assistants, or silly apps.

RadiozRadioz 2y ago
Yes, it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy a non-smart TV. I don't like living in a world where my TV can crash or be down for a software update (which have both happened to me). They're also ticking time-bombs - who knows when support will be dropped and the apps will slowly break as they gradually fall out of compatibility with the external APIs they depend on. What horrors lurk in the depths of those lovelessly constructed TV OSs that call out to servers and will cause mayhem when those servers are decommissioned?
- al_borland 2y ago
  My dad had a Blu-ray player that had similar features to a smart TV (Netflix, etc). There was a licensing sever and the API was down, so everything stopped working. A single point of failure for the whole device.
  - pridkett 2y ago
    That might’ve also been the September 6, 2022 Google Widevine license issue. This broke DRM protected content across most android based devices. It wasn’t a single point of failure for a device. It was a single point of failure for the whole media ecosystem. [0]: https://status.drmtoday.com/incidents/w2wbtnn9r67y https://status.drmtoday.com/incidents/w2wbtnn9r67y
- deadbunny 2y ago
  > What horrors lurk in the depths of those lovelessly constructed TV OSs that call out to servers and will cause mayhem when those servers are decommissioned? My Sony TVs all work without an internet connection, so I'd guess nothing?
- s17tnet 2y ago
  Keep them airgapped or use a smart HDMI stick, their support typically outperform anything from the TV vendor and you can install apps (e.g. Jellyfin) on them. If you dislike Google or Amazon there are some Linux based options. There is also HDMI over-radio but I don't know its limits (range, bandwidth, latency).
- nerdjon 2y ago
  Why not just never connect it to the internet and never update the firmware? I do wish I could just buy a dumb tv that just did TV things… but it’s simple to just use an Apple TV and never connect it. Or if I absolutely must to set it up or because there is a bug. Connect it via Ethernet briefly. Better for privacy too.
  - snapplebobapple 2y ago
    This plus an n100 running hyorjellynix witg a firetv remote ftw.
    - woleium 2y ago
      hyorjellynix?
      - snapplebobapple 2y ago
        https://github.com/zombiehoffa/hyprjellynix https://github.com/zombiehoffa/hyprjellynix
        woleium 2y ago
        ty!

For me, Jellyfin makes my smart TV (running webOS) tolerable. It turns the TV into the appliance it should have been from the start, without ads, AI assistants, or silly apps.

RadiozRadioz 2y ago

Yes, it is becoming increasingly difficult to buy a non-smart TV. I don't like living in a world where my TV can crash or be down for a software update (which have both happened to me). They're also ticking time-bombs - who knows when support will be dropped and the apps will slowly break as they gradually fall out of compatibility with the external APIs they depend on. What horrors lurk in the depths of those lovelessly constructed TV OSs that call out to servers and will cause mayhem when those servers are decommissioned?

al_borland 2y ago
My dad had a Blu-ray player that had similar features to a smart TV (Netflix, etc). There was a licensing sever and the API was down, so everything stopped working. A single point of failure for the whole device.
- pridkett 2y ago
  That might’ve also been the September 6, 2022 Google Widevine license issue. This broke DRM protected content across most android based devices. It wasn’t a single point of failure for a device. It was a single point of failure for the whole media ecosystem. [0]: https://status.drmtoday.com/incidents/w2wbtnn9r67y https://status.drmtoday.com/incidents/w2wbtnn9r67y
deadbunny 2y ago
> What horrors lurk in the depths of those lovelessly constructed TV OSs that call out to servers and will cause mayhem when those servers are decommissioned? My Sony TVs all work without an internet connection, so I'd guess nothing?
s17tnet 2y ago
Keep them airgapped or use a smart HDMI stick, their support typically outperform anything from the TV vendor and you can install apps (e.g. Jellyfin) on them. If you dislike Google or Amazon there are some Linux based options. There is also HDMI over-radio but I don't know its limits (range, bandwidth, latency).
nerdjon 2y ago
Why not just never connect it to the internet and never update the firmware? I do wish I could just buy a dumb tv that just did TV things… but it’s simple to just use an Apple TV and never connect it. Or if I absolutely must to set it up or because there is a bug. Connect it via Ethernet briefly. Better for privacy too.
- snapplebobapple 2y ago
  This plus an n100 running hyorjellynix witg a firetv remote ftw.
  - woleium 2y ago
    hyorjellynix?
    - snapplebobapple 2y ago
      https://github.com/zombiehoffa/hyprjellynix https://github.com/zombiehoffa/hyprjellynix
      - woleium 2y ago
        ty!