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Oh for crying out loud. "EEE" isn't a magic incantation, it's the name of an actual policy with actual tangible steps that their executives were implementing b

Oh for crying out loud. "EEE" isn't a magic incantation, it's the name of an actual policy with actual tangible steps that their executives were implementing back when the CEO thought open source was the greatest threat to their business model. Microsoft contributing to a project doesn't automatically make it EEE. For one thing, EEE was about adopting open standards in proprietary software. Microsoft during EEE didn't publish GPL code like this is.

haolez 2y ago
Well, most of their extensions to VSCode are proprietary. When their dominance in software development becomes irreversible, it's obvious that they will close things down and create new sources of income. The incentives are clear.
- madeofpalk 2y ago
  What has VS Code got to do with any of this?
- mb7733 2y ago
  VSCode is _their_ product. It doesn't make sense to say that they are EEEing their own product. EEE is when you take some existing open standard, support it in proprietary a product, and then extend it in proprietary ways, thereby taking over the standard. It doesn't apply for a product that you originally created.
  - jasonm23 2y ago
    .... Fork not an original creation that's how effective eee is, you don't know (or likely care) where MS ripped all this code. This is not an accident. It's the point.
    - mb7733 2y ago
      Are you saying that VSCode is a fork of a non-Microsoft product? Which one?
- thiht 2y ago
  So what? You can use VSCodium and the OpenVSX marketplace if you like, no one is stopping you. It DOES mean you won’t be able to use some extensions that are published exclusively on the VSCode marketplace but guess what? You’re not entitled to every extension being accessible from all the stores, and you’re even less entitled to demand that all extensions are open source. If Microsoft want to develop some proprietary extensions for VSCode it’s fine, everyone has this right. It has nothing to do with EEE.

haolez 2y ago

Well, most of their extensions to VSCode are proprietary. When their dominance in software development becomes irreversible, it's obvious that they will close things down and create new sources of income. The incentives are clear.

madeofpalk 2y ago
What has VS Code got to do with any of this?
mb7733 2y ago
VSCode is _their_ product. It doesn't make sense to say that they are EEEing their own product. EEE is when you take some existing open standard, support it in proprietary a product, and then extend it in proprietary ways, thereby taking over the standard. It doesn't apply for a product that you originally created.
- jasonm23 2y ago
  .... Fork not an original creation that's how effective eee is, you don't know (or likely care) where MS ripped all this code. This is not an accident. It's the point.
  - mb7733 2y ago
    Are you saying that VSCode is a fork of a non-Microsoft product? Which one?
thiht 2y ago
So what? You can use VSCodium and the OpenVSX marketplace if you like, no one is stopping you. It DOES mean you won’t be able to use some extensions that are published exclusively on the VSCode marketplace but guess what? You’re not entitled to every extension being accessible from all the stores, and you’re even less entitled to demand that all extensions are open source. If Microsoft want to develop some proprietary extensions for VSCode it’s fine, everyone has this right. It has nothing to do with EEE.