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There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most str
by PoignardAzur 2y ago
There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person.
The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.
- aeternum 2y agoIn that case, I can't imagine how you feel about delivery trucks.
- snypher 2y agoCab-over trucks usually have pretty good visibility out the front. Plus, they are useful for delivery of goods that help society.
- tekkk 2y agoThat thing is all steel and sharp corners. Not at all the same as a delivery truck, adhering to basic pedestrian safety standards and also driven mostly by workers with special driving licenses. Also they are way slower than these steel battering rams.
- ceejayoz 2y agoThe new Amazon electric ones appear to have pretty great visiblity. Same for the new USPS vehicle (which, to be fair, looks a bit bizarre).
- Teever 2y agoDelivery trucks are typically operated by professional drivers who require clean driving abstracts and maybe even drug testing. There are also far fewer of them per capita than passenger vehicles. At the end of the day they're a necessary evil while the ever growing number of vanity pavement princess pickup trucks are not.
- csomar 2y agoMany cities do not allow large trucks inside the city especially in pedestrian areas. Will the same restrictions apply to the cybertruck?
- skytanks 2y agoThat’s strange since the Cybertruck doesn’t meet European regulations (at the very least UN-R26) due to pedestrian safety. Not sure if there is a workaround if someone imports it as their personal vehicle though.
- EE84M3i 2y agoPerhaps there's some sort of exception if it's just for exhibition? If there wasn't, I suppose it would be difficult to have things like museums, auto shows, etc
- rightbyte 2y agoThere is an exemption for formal road legality for vehicle development and sales in all countries I've been working in with vehicle development and testing.
- maeil 2y agoObviously it's legal to own and display road-illegal vehicles. Just think about open-wheel racing, including go-karts. Just can't drive them on the road. The truck will have been transported inside a bigger truck or on top of a car transporter.
- Neonlicht 2y agoYou can't get road insurance for them either.
- frugalmail 2y agoIf it's strictly the height that's the issue Tesla can make it so it's software locked not to surpass a certain height on paved roads or geo fence it.
- moooo99 2y agoIt’s not strictly about height, that is only one of the factors. Modern cars usually have pedestrian safety systems that the cybertruck does not have by design.
- mensetmanusman 2y agoWe will fight for your freedom to prevent sharp corners on roads.
- kaliqt 2y ago[flagged]
- IntelMiner 2y agoFearmongering? Ralph Nader was writing about how unsafe motor vehicles were in 1965
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago"Your wish for child safety impedes my freedom to play suburban cowboy in my jacked up electric scythe. That's tyranny."
- not_really 2y agoWell, it is?
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoWhat is?
- Symbiote 2y agoThey are not legal in the EU, but a loophole is being exploited to import them. I'd appreciate EU citizens writing to their MEPs about this. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/08/tesla-cybertruck-too-big-and-sharp-for-european-roads-say-campaigners https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/08/tesla-cyb...
- moralestapia 2y ago[flagged]
- pcdoodle 2y agoMerica.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoNot just Merica. People prioritize flashing their status via a large, expensive impractical cars than the greater good everywhere. Large American SUVs are flying off the shelves in Europe.
- manuel_w 2y ago> Large American SUVs are flying off the shelves in Europe. Not in the part of Europe I'm in. I can't recall the last time I've seen an American car here in the streets of Vienna. Also: Don't large American SUVs consume a lot of petrol? Considering the gas prices I'd assume not many people can/want to afford them.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoVienna isn't representative for all of Europe. Not even for the rest of Austria. Go to the other more car centric cities and you'll see.
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- golol 2y agoIt's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.
- StackRanker3000 2y agoI assume they don’t have a lot of F-150s in Paris, either.
- Neonlicht 2y agoAny city built and or designed before cars is a nightmare for giant American pickups. That said do you see those in Boston or NYC a lot?
- ywvcbk 2y ago> Any city built and or designed before So not most European cities? Unless you only count villages and old towns of larger cities. Europeans have been building and designing towns around cars almost since after the end of WW2. They just used a somewhat different approach (since European cars were tiny compared to NA ones in the 50s and 60s). There has also been a reversal with more focus on pedestrians and public transport over the last 20-30 years.
- golol 2y agoYes I don't think it should be allowed in Europe, yet the outrage I see, also from, Americans, as if this is some new never seen before level of danger on the road is unreasonable.
- d1sxeyes 2y ago> I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150 Serious question: have you looked? Or is there any special reason you imagine that if such evidence existed, you would have seen it? I say this because I spent 10-15 minutes looking for information and gave up because I’m not sure of any tests which I could use to compare the two, or any testing bodies that focus on pedestrian safety. If that information exists, I’d be interested to see a side by side comparison.
- 7thpower 2y agoWhy do you hope they never get allowed in France?
- coconoconut 2y ago[dead]
- cutemonster 2y agoInteresting about height and fatality risk: (from the article) > a 10cm increase in the front-end height of a vehicle led to a 22% increase in pedestrian fatality risk, most strongly affecting the survival chances of women, children, and older people. Kid killer cars
- null0pointer 2y agoI honestly can’t believe they’re street legal anywhere given that the steel panels essentially turn them into a knife driving down the highway.
- az09mugen 2y agoEven if it were allowed on the roads of France, with its 4 tons, you would have to pass the specific driver license C1 [1], because over the 3.5 tons limit of a classical driver license B. More than that, the C1 must be renewed every 5 years at least. [1] : https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F31121 https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F31121