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The difference between Fascism of the 30’s and today is that in the 30’s there was a mass movement which was organised as part of the Fascist parties. Whereas t

The difference between Fascism of the 30’s and today is that in the 30’s there was a mass movement which was organised as part of the Fascist parties. Whereas today that is missing. The notion of “Inverted totalitarianism” by Sheldon Wolin, I think encapsulates our current political situation.

aebtebeten 2y ago
What's your definition of "mass movement"? An anecdote that I find has some[0] parallels: In 1936[1], when the League of German Girls and Hitler Youth had open-air camps at the Nazi party meeting in Nürnberg, many came back pregnant. This was enough of a scandal that they got rid of the girls' open-air camp in 1937; not only because one of new mothers named 13 people as possible fathers, but also because they were all going to be new mothers: Nazis had pushed to largely outlaw abortion in 1933. see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder,_Küche,_Kirche#Third_Reich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder,_Küche,_Kirche#Third_Re... [0] albeit much sketchier than the 4/4 (elements of fascism), or 14/14 (Eco's elements of Ur-Fascism), evaluated in TFA. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsparteitag#:~:text=Zu%20den%20Reichsparteitagen%20fuhren%20auch,zurückkehrten%2C%20wurden%20anschließend%20Schwangerschaften%20festgestellt https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsparteitag#:~:text=Zu%20d.... EDIT: another loose parallel: if you do a search for the word "Nazi" in german language newspapers, they occur pretty often in the years leading up to 1933, but after that year the word suddenly occurs only in foreign-published german-language papers — even back then, even the historical Nazis didn't like being described by that nickname: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/search/newspaper?query=nazi&fromDay=1&fromMonth=1&fromYear=1929&toDay=31&toMonth=12&toYear=1933 https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/search/newspaper...

aebtebeten 2y ago

What's your definition of "mass movement"? An anecdote that I find has some[0] parallels: In 1936[1], when the League of German Girls and Hitler Youth had open-air camps at the Nazi party meeting in Nürnberg, many came back pregnant. This was enough of a scandal that they got rid of the girls' open-air camp in 1937; not only because one of new mothers named 13 people as possible fathers, but also because they were all going to be new mothers: Nazis had pushed to largely outlaw abortion in 1933. see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder,_Küche,_Kirche#Third_Reich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder,_Küche,_Kirche#Third_Re... [0] albeit much sketchier than the 4/4 (elements of fascism), or 14/14 (Eco's elements of Ur-Fascism), evaluated in TFA. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsparteitag#:~:text=Zu%20den%20Reichsparteitagen%20fuhren%20auch,zurückkehrten%2C%20wurden%20anschließend%20Schwangerschaften%20festgestellt https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsparteitag#:~:text=Zu%20d.... EDIT: another loose parallel: if you do a search for the word "Nazi" in german language newspapers, they occur pretty often in the years leading up to 1933, but after that year the word suddenly occurs only in foreign-published german-language papers — even back then, even the historical Nazis didn't like being described by that nickname: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/search/newspaper?query=nazi&fromDay=1&fromMonth=1&fromYear=1929&toDay=31&toMonth=12&toYear=1933 https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/search/newspaper...