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So, her books compare Trump to Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, and people are surprised that the event was cancelled. Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candi

by kthjaG 2y ago

So, her books compare Trump to Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, and people are surprised that the event was cancelled. Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candidate. All U.S. media organizations attempt the "Trump is Hitler" shtick as a final Hail Mary because they sense that Harris is going to lose. Just like in 2016.

wrs 2y ago
The Republicans’ shtick is that any criticism of Republicans is entirely partisan and should be ignored or suppressed.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  And they do so while whining about “cancel culture” all the time and pretending to “defend free speech”…
AvAn12 2y ago
Did you not read that he just said he will use the military and government to jail his political opponents? Yesterday. So he may be different than Hitler in that he does not wear a moustach, but the promise to jail political rivals is a big problem. And no, there is not an equivalence to Trump’s current indictments - they are all based on his actual violation of actual laws - and they have yet to go to trial - verdicts have not been rendered, and he might be found not guilty. This is not the same as jailing or threatening to jail people who you simply suspect may not agree with you. Trump is a menace and if you think you will “get rich on crypto” if he does and or some other such fantasy, you might be in for disappointment- especially if he should randomly decide you are on his enemies list. Please don’t fall for this.
- klear 2y ago
  Everyone will agree that Trump makes silly comments! He made the same comments in 2016 and never even attempted to lock up anyone for the whole four years. The Democrats always say the right things, but proceeded to try to lock up Trump for the entire period of 2021-2024. Barking dogs don't bite, it seems that "Silent dogs bite" is also true.
  - derektank 2y ago
    Jeff Sessions was actively encouraged to investigate Hillary Clinton by Donald Trump which, to his credit, he largely resisted as he had decided to refuse himself on all matters that might be related to the 2016 campaign (Sessions had been a member of the Trump campaign). It's overwhelmingly likely that the next AG will be far more compliant to Trump's demands
    - mikeyouse 2y ago
      Trump was literally impeached for attempting to trade US weapons for dirt on his political opponents after which his personal lawyers and DOJ appointees spent years “investigating” his opponents. Then there was the IRS targeting he used to go after those who worked with Mueller.. people who deny this stuff happened are either super low info commenters or actively malicious so it’s probably not worth engaging but it’s gaslighting on an impressive scale at least. Aside from all that, if the best defense of a Presidential candidate explicitly promising to use the military and DOJ to target the media, political rivals and anyone who opposes him is that he “says silly things”, that’s not actually reassuring at all. “You can’t trust his repeated promises” shouldn’t be a benign fact..
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    The best thing you can say about Donald Trump is that he has the attention span of a gnat and a sense of vanity so large that manipulating him is trivially easy. He had fewer accomplishments in his term than any president in memory. What he brings is chaos, not policy, and that is the only thing that gives me much hope at all should he win another term. We'd be much worse off if he had the skill to turn the rhetoric into action. Probably we will just get more useless wall.
  - V-eHGsd_ 2y ago
    > but proceeded to try to lock up Trump for the entire period of 2021-2024. that's a very strange/partisan way to say that they tried to hold him legally accountable for his actions.
- mikeyouse 2y ago
  And the Trump-Hitler news is because a US Marine General, and Trump’s CoS and Director of Homeland Security went public with his fears based on the last time that Trump tried to deploy the Military against civilians and was met with pushback, after which he wondered why “His Generals” weren’t more like Hitler’s. There’s never been a less fit major political candidate in the US.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    > There’s never been a less fit major political candidate in the US. And the polls and prediction markets both suggest he has a better shot at winning than the boring business-as-usual candidate. Prepare for four more years of chaos, and another test of our democratic institutions' ability to protect the republic. Guaranteed to be a wild ride. Don't forget to vote! It matters!
    - dragonwriter 2y ago
      The poll based predictors are influenced by a flood of low-quality polls from right-biased sources, they are not resilient against that form of manipulation. The GOP doesn't seem to trust predictors that they are going to win by people’s votes, otherwise they wouldn't be calling for skipping that altogether in determining the results in a swing state that polling averages have leaning in their favor. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/25/freedom-caucus-nc-electoral-votes-trump/75843860007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/...
ethbr1 2y ago
> Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candidate. Because they're both authoritarian? Not sure what you were trying to suggest there. Netanyahu and Hitler have much in common in their political approach, even if their policies (obviously) differ.
- idle_zealot 2y ago
  Do their policies differ? They both run an authoritarian, expansionist ethnostate bent on commiting genocide.
  - littlestymaar 2y ago
    You can still criticize Netanyahou and the Israeli government without being jailed in concentration camps or assassinated, which is a luxury that political opponents of Hitler didn't have…
    - SauciestGNU 2y ago
      LMAO no you can't. Thousands of Palestinians are in "administrative detention" without trial. Tens, probably hundreds of thousands have been murdered for being part of a disfavored ethnic group. Israel carries out assassinations across the globe. Netanyahu is a Hitler aspirant who happens to be Jewish.
      - littlestymaar 2y ago
        Haaretz exists, no media like that could have dreamed of existing under the third Reich. Netanyahou is a monster at the head of a theocratic ethno-state that has been committing crime against humanity for almost 80 years, but it's not Nazi Germany either, stop making inept comparisons.
mola 2y ago
Netanyahu is an authoritarian that during the last 30 years has been busy dismantling Israel's democracy. So yeah, Trump is his favourite. He also like far right leaders like Hungary's Orbán and Poland's Kaczyński...
rootusrootus 2y ago
Trump is definitely a demagogue, so comparing him to other well known demagogues of the [relatively] recent past is perfectly reasonable. This is worth a national discussion because it was fundamental to the creation of this country, our system of government was intended to protect us from exactly this situation.
dragonwriter 2y ago
> All U.S. media organizations attempt the "Trump is Hitler" shtick as a final Hail Mary because they sense that Harris is going to lose. No, I think it is because he overtly calls for purges of the civil service and replacement with personal loyalists, use of the military against personal political opponents, ethnic cleansing on a world-historic scale in the US, etc. > Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candidate. That’s not really an argument against him being a fascist authoritarian.
zen928 2y ago
It's interesting that you and your defending cheerleader down in the discussion chain are both one day old accounts exclusively spewing pro authoritarian pro trump rhetoric. It really does make it difficult to wonder if you have an antagonistic intention meant to push a narrative instead of trying to good faith contribute to the discussion ... It may have helped your candidate avoid Hitler comparisons if he himself didn't bring up praise about Hitler. Not hard to see that it's bad optics.

by kthjaG 2y ago

wrs 2y ago

The Republicans’ shtick is that any criticism of Republicans is entirely partisan and should be ignored or suppressed.

littlestymaar 2y ago
And they do so while whining about “cancel culture” all the time and pretending to “defend free speech”…

AvAn12 2y ago

Did you not read that he just said he will use the military and government to jail his political opponents? Yesterday. So he may be different than Hitler in that he does not wear a moustach, but the promise to jail political rivals is a big problem. And no, there is not an equivalence to Trump’s current indictments - they are all based on his actual violation of actual laws - and they have yet to go to trial - verdicts have not been rendered, and he might be found not guilty. This is not the same as jailing or threatening to jail people who you simply suspect may not agree with you. Trump is a menace and if you think you will “get rich on crypto” if he does and or some other such fantasy, you might be in for disappointment- especially if he should randomly decide you are on his enemies list. Please don’t fall for this.

klear 2y ago
Everyone will agree that Trump makes silly comments! He made the same comments in 2016 and never even attempted to lock up anyone for the whole four years. The Democrats always say the right things, but proceeded to try to lock up Trump for the entire period of 2021-2024. Barking dogs don't bite, it seems that "Silent dogs bite" is also true.
- derektank 2y ago
  Jeff Sessions was actively encouraged to investigate Hillary Clinton by Donald Trump which, to his credit, he largely resisted as he had decided to refuse himself on all matters that might be related to the 2016 campaign (Sessions had been a member of the Trump campaign). It's overwhelmingly likely that the next AG will be far more compliant to Trump's demands
  - mikeyouse 2y ago
    Trump was literally impeached for attempting to trade US weapons for dirt on his political opponents after which his personal lawyers and DOJ appointees spent years “investigating” his opponents. Then there was the IRS targeting he used to go after those who worked with Mueller.. people who deny this stuff happened are either super low info commenters or actively malicious so it’s probably not worth engaging but it’s gaslighting on an impressive scale at least. Aside from all that, if the best defense of a Presidential candidate explicitly promising to use the military and DOJ to target the media, political rivals and anyone who opposes him is that he “says silly things”, that’s not actually reassuring at all. “You can’t trust his repeated promises” shouldn’t be a benign fact..
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  The best thing you can say about Donald Trump is that he has the attention span of a gnat and a sense of vanity so large that manipulating him is trivially easy. He had fewer accomplishments in his term than any president in memory. What he brings is chaos, not policy, and that is the only thing that gives me much hope at all should he win another term. We'd be much worse off if he had the skill to turn the rhetoric into action. Probably we will just get more useless wall.
- V-eHGsd_ 2y ago
  > but proceeded to try to lock up Trump for the entire period of 2021-2024. that's a very strange/partisan way to say that they tried to hold him legally accountable for his actions.
mikeyouse 2y ago
And the Trump-Hitler news is because a US Marine General, and Trump’s CoS and Director of Homeland Security went public with his fears based on the last time that Trump tried to deploy the Military against civilians and was met with pushback, after which he wondered why “His Generals” weren’t more like Hitler’s. There’s never been a less fit major political candidate in the US.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  > There’s never been a less fit major political candidate in the US. And the polls and prediction markets both suggest he has a better shot at winning than the boring business-as-usual candidate. Prepare for four more years of chaos, and another test of our democratic institutions' ability to protect the republic. Guaranteed to be a wild ride. Don't forget to vote! It matters!
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    The poll based predictors are influenced by a flood of low-quality polls from right-biased sources, they are not resilient against that form of manipulation. The GOP doesn't seem to trust predictors that they are going to win by people’s votes, otherwise they wouldn't be calling for skipping that altogether in determining the results in a swing state that polling averages have leaning in their favor. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/25/freedom-caucus-nc-electoral-votes-trump/75843860007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/...

ethbr1 2y ago

> Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candidate. Because they're both authoritarian? Not sure what you were trying to suggest there. Netanyahu and Hitler have much in common in their political approach, even if their policies (obviously) differ.

idle_zealot 2y ago
Do their policies differ? They both run an authoritarian, expansionist ethnostate bent on commiting genocide.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  You can still criticize Netanyahou and the Israeli government without being jailed in concentration camps or assassinated, which is a luxury that political opponents of Hitler didn't have…
  - SauciestGNU 2y ago
    LMAO no you can't. Thousands of Palestinians are in "administrative detention" without trial. Tens, probably hundreds of thousands have been murdered for being part of a disfavored ethnic group. Israel carries out assassinations across the globe. Netanyahu is a Hitler aspirant who happens to be Jewish.
    - littlestymaar 2y ago
      Haaretz exists, no media like that could have dreamed of existing under the third Reich. Netanyahou is a monster at the head of a theocratic ethno-state that has been committing crime against humanity for almost 80 years, but it's not Nazi Germany either, stop making inept comparisons.

mola 2y ago

Netanyahu is an authoritarian that during the last 30 years has been busy dismantling Israel's democracy. So yeah, Trump is his favourite. He also like far right leaders like Hungary's Orbán and Poland's Kaczyński...

rootusrootus 2y ago

Trump is definitely a demagogue, so comparing him to other well known demagogues of the [relatively] recent past is perfectly reasonable. This is worth a national discussion because it was fundamental to the creation of this country, our system of government was intended to protect us from exactly this situation.

dragonwriter 2y ago

> All U.S. media organizations attempt the "Trump is Hitler" shtick as a final Hail Mary because they sense that Harris is going to lose. No, I think it is because he overtly calls for purges of the civil service and replacement with personal loyalists, use of the military against personal political opponents, ethnic cleansing on a world-historic scale in the US, etc. > Trump by the way is Netanyahu's favorite candidate. That’s not really an argument against him being a fascist authoritarian.

zen928 2y ago

It's interesting that you and your defending cheerleader down in the discussion chain are both one day old accounts exclusively spewing pro authoritarian pro trump rhetoric. It really does make it difficult to wonder if you have an antagonistic intention meant to push a narrative instead of trying to good faith contribute to the discussion ... It may have helped your candidate avoid Hitler comparisons if he himself didn't bring up praise about Hitler. Not hard to see that it's bad optics.