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> What is the advantage of bluesky here? Fewer Nazis.

jrm4 2y ago
Yeah, this is another issue entirely, but also very often wrong and misses the point. Roughly, e.g. -- Twitter (nope not calling it X) is still overwhelmingly the most useful and productive place for Black+US Politics discussion. Despite, or even perhaps because of, the presence of bad guys. The thing I hate the most about Mastodon (despite being the right model) is people trying to make it nice, but end up making it STERILE. The left leaning folks, who politically I generally strongly agree with, really do overdo it in terms of "shutting down disagreeable speech." (Bluesky is similar to Mastodon here)
- relaxing 2y ago
  What’s some of this disagreeable speech you’ve been shut down on.
  - swed420 2y ago
    Yeah, it would have been more accurate for GP to say "liberal" instead of "left" since mastodon (and large parts of lemmy) have been overrun with liberals who label any leftist a "tankie"
    - jrm4 2y ago
      Oh no, I do mean that the lefties are the problem. They're the ones making it sterile. I'm glad the libs are pushing back. Disconnected keyboard lefties who don't touch grass calling me a Nazi because I also still use Twitter, being completely clueless as to the fact that a lot of Black folks like myself are still there because, well, we're used to surviving and thriving in hostile spaces. (and then also snowflake hard-left Black folks who -- and I've literally NEVER seen this in my life until Mastodon -- really do "play the race card." It's wild)
      - swed420 2y ago
        It sounds like you're using the liberal definition of leftist.
        jrm4 2y ago
        Probably?
        swed420 2y ago
        In other words, what you call liberals probably are, but they're engaging with faux leftists who are just a different flavor of liberal, not actually left. If they were actually left, they'd be focusing on class based issues instead of amping up division with the race etc issues that you mentioned.

jrm4 2y ago

Yeah, this is another issue entirely, but also very often wrong and misses the point. Roughly, e.g. -- Twitter (nope not calling it X) is still overwhelmingly the most useful and productive place for Black+US Politics discussion. Despite, or even perhaps because of, the presence of bad guys. The thing I hate the most about Mastodon (despite being the right model) is people trying to make it nice, but end up making it STERILE. The left leaning folks, who politically I generally strongly agree with, really do overdo it in terms of "shutting down disagreeable speech." (Bluesky is similar to Mastodon here)

relaxing 2y ago
What’s some of this disagreeable speech you’ve been shut down on.
- swed420 2y ago
  Yeah, it would have been more accurate for GP to say "liberal" instead of "left" since mastodon (and large parts of lemmy) have been overrun with liberals who label any leftist a "tankie"
  - jrm4 2y ago
    Oh no, I do mean that the lefties are the problem. They're the ones making it sterile. I'm glad the libs are pushing back. Disconnected keyboard lefties who don't touch grass calling me a Nazi because I also still use Twitter, being completely clueless as to the fact that a lot of Black folks like myself are still there because, well, we're used to surviving and thriving in hostile spaces. (and then also snowflake hard-left Black folks who -- and I've literally NEVER seen this in my life until Mastodon -- really do "play the race card." It's wild)
    - swed420 2y ago
      It sounds like you're using the liberal definition of leftist.
      - jrm4 2y ago
        Probably?
        swed420 2y ago
        In other words, what you call liberals probably are, but they're engaging with faux leftists who are just a different flavor of liberal, not actually left. If they were actually left, they'd be focusing on class based issues instead of amping up division with the race etc issues that you mentioned.