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Att 55 degrees latitude is is comparably pretty far south in Scandinavian terms, like Denmark. And we do grow crops in Sweden. Inland climate in Canada and (fo

Att 55 degrees latitude is is comparably pretty far south in Scandinavian terms, like Denmark. And we do grow crops in Sweden. Inland climate in Canada and (for Scandinavia) the Gulf Stream could make the difference. Although I imagine the Hudson bay should give it more of seaside climate?

ovis 2y ago
From a map I found[0], it looks like Sweden has an average annual temperature of around +5⁰C, and northern Ontario and Quebec are closer to -5⁰C? [0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Annual_Average_Temperature_Map.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Annual_A...
- fifilura 2y ago
  Thanks. Must be the Gulf stream and general seaside climate. We have it better than we deserve. But only 20000 years ago Sweden was covered in 3km of ice.
  - jhide 2y ago
    The Laurentide ice sheet over North America was similar depth and receded 15000 years ago. A blink in geologic time
jseutter 2y ago
I just looked up Cochrane ON because I hadn't heard of it before and yeah, it seems a bit of a mystery to me why it isn't more settled. I live around Edmonton where farming is a major industry, and just for comparison: Mean daily temperature range (min to max): Cochrane -19c to +24c, Edmonton -15 to +23 Growing season: Cochrane 155 days, Edmonton 123 days Frost free days: Cochrane 99 days, Edmonton 135 days Precipitation: Cochrane 90cm, Edmonton 42cm Around the first world war when the area was being settled, wikipedia quotes "7 months of snow, two months of rain, and the rest black flies and mosquitos. If I had to describe Edmonton, it would be 6 months of winter, one month of rain (June), 2 months of mosquitos, and 10 months of sun. If I had to guess, the frost free days is a big factor. Even though Edmonton is further north, we benefit from the jet stream coming over the mountains and largely keeping the arctic air mass away from us. The jet stream tilts further south into the US by the time you get over to Ontario so Manitoba and Northern Ontario can get some bitterly cold winds.
cgh 2y ago
No, northern Canada is just really cold. The Gulf Stream makes a difference in Europe in general, not just the seaside. Eg, Lillehammer, Norway is around the same latitude as Whitehorse, Canada but the average December high/low is a balmy -3°/°-8 compared to -10°/-18°. And Bergen is at the same latitude as those places but is even warmer, with a climate similar to Vancouver! That always amazes me. As far as Hudson’s Bay being “seaside”, Churchill, Manitoba is on the southwest shore and is a great place to go and see polar bears. If climate change does end up affecting the Gulf Stream, northern Europe is in for a tremendous cold shock.

ovis 2y ago

From a map I found[0], it looks like Sweden has an average annual temperature of around +5⁰C, and northern Ontario and Quebec are closer to -5⁰C? [0] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Annual_Average_Temperature_Map.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Annual_A...

fifilura 2y ago
Thanks. Must be the Gulf stream and general seaside climate. We have it better than we deserve. But only 20000 years ago Sweden was covered in 3km of ice.
- jhide 2y ago
  The Laurentide ice sheet over North America was similar depth and receded 15000 years ago. A blink in geologic time

jseutter 2y ago

I just looked up Cochrane ON because I hadn't heard of it before and yeah, it seems a bit of a mystery to me why it isn't more settled. I live around Edmonton where farming is a major industry, and just for comparison: Mean daily temperature range (min to max): Cochrane -19c to +24c, Edmonton -15 to +23 Growing season: Cochrane 155 days, Edmonton 123 days Frost free days: Cochrane 99 days, Edmonton 135 days Precipitation: Cochrane 90cm, Edmonton 42cm Around the first world war when the area was being settled, wikipedia quotes "7 months of snow, two months of rain, and the rest black flies and mosquitos. If I had to describe Edmonton, it would be 6 months of winter, one month of rain (June), 2 months of mosquitos, and 10 months of sun. If I had to guess, the frost free days is a big factor. Even though Edmonton is further north, we benefit from the jet stream coming over the mountains and largely keeping the arctic air mass away from us. The jet stream tilts further south into the US by the time you get over to Ontario so Manitoba and Northern Ontario can get some bitterly cold winds.

cgh 2y ago

No, northern Canada is just really cold. The Gulf Stream makes a difference in Europe in general, not just the seaside. Eg, Lillehammer, Norway is around the same latitude as Whitehorse, Canada but the average December high/low is a balmy -3°/°-8 compared to -10°/-18°. And Bergen is at the same latitude as those places but is even warmer, with a climate similar to Vancouver! That always amazes me. As far as Hudson’s Bay being “seaside”, Churchill, Manitoba is on the southwest shore and is a great place to go and see polar bears. If climate change does end up affecting the Gulf Stream, northern Europe is in for a tremendous cold shock.