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Bluesky's claims to why they're better than anything always sound like crazy pill stuff to me. Other services both centralize identity AND algorithms/operation
by jrm4 2y ago
Bluesky's claims to why they're better than anything always sound like crazy pill stuff to me.
Other services both centralize identity AND algorithms/operations.
This seems to centralize identity WITHOUT the second thing, which strikes me as the worst of both worlds.
It's just, we've already mostly "solved" the centralized identity problem with EMAIL. As often, the key is "fail elegantly," not be bulletproof. Email, in it's federated state, allows for individuals to more or less choose what kind of centralization they want -- and more importantly, to kill and restart accounts if needed. Thus, Mastodon is the best parallel.
What am I missing? What is the advantage of bluesky here?
- relaxing 2y ago> What is the advantage of bluesky here? Fewer Nazis.
- jrm4 2y agoYeah, this is another issue entirely, but also very often wrong and misses the point. Roughly, e.g. -- Twitter (nope not calling it X) is still overwhelmingly the most useful and productive place for Black+US Politics discussion. Despite, or even perhaps because of, the presence of bad guys. The thing I hate the most about Mastodon (despite being the right model) is people trying to make it nice, but end up making it STERILE. The left leaning folks, who politically I generally strongly agree with, really do overdo it in terms of "shutting down disagreeable speech." (Bluesky is similar to Mastodon here)
- relaxing 2y agoWhat’s some of this disagreeable speech you’ve been shut down on.
- swed420 2y agoYeah, it would have been more accurate for GP to say "liberal" instead of "left" since mastodon (and large parts of lemmy) have been overrun with liberals who label any leftist a "tankie"
- jrm4 2y agoOh no, I do mean that the lefties are the problem. They're the ones making it sterile. I'm glad the libs are pushing back. Disconnected keyboard lefties who don't touch grass calling me a Nazi because I also still use Twitter, being completely clueless as to the fact that a lot of Black folks like myself are still there because, well, we're used to surviving and thriving in hostile spaces. (and then also snowflake hard-left Black folks who -- and I've literally NEVER seen this in my life until Mastodon -- really do "play the race card." It's wild)
- swed420 2y agoIt sounds like you're using the liberal definition of leftist.
- jrm4 2y agoProbably?
- swed420 2y agoIn other words, what you call liberals probably are, but they're engaging with faux leftists who are just a different flavor of liberal, not actually left. If they were actually left, they'd be focusing on class based issues instead of amping up division with the race etc issues that you mentioned.
- hoidofyolen 2y agoI don't have the energy to put all of the advantages and argue for them here, but take a look at https://atproto.com https://atproto.com and maybe look around at other blog posts and articles that contrast atproto and ActivityPub. Might just have to do some research, since it's been talked about ad nauseam already in other spaces.
- jrm4 2y agoI promise I'm not intentionally trying to play gotcha or anything like that, but if you're literally unable to rattle off something in a short space, my skepticism only deepens?