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Do you know why people in Okinawa and Sardinia have great longevity? Is it Ikigai, or living simple village life, or eating maggot infested cheese? No, it's bec

Do you know why people in Okinawa and Sardinia have great longevity? Is it Ikigai, or living simple village life, or eating maggot infested cheese? No, it's because of lack of record keeping, specifically families keeping people "alive" to collect pensions: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v3 https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v3

nilawafer 2y ago
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- chengiz 2y ago
  "Recently been shown" by the paper I linked to.
csallen 2y ago
Response from some blue zone demographers to the paper you linked: https://www.bluezones.com/news/are-supercentenarian-claims-based-on-age-exaggeration https://www.bluezones.com/news/are-supercentenarian-claims-b... It begins, "The pre-print is not new data, research, or a study. It is a theory – an opinion paper that the author has been unable to get published in any scientific journal or peer-reviewed publication. The original version of the paper was released as a pre-print in 2019 and still has not been properly published, meaning the theories have never passed any scientific peer review." And it continues with a point-by-point rebuttal. Worth taking a look at.
- chengiz 2y ago
  Blue zones demographers from https://bluezones.com https://bluezones.com rebut research against blue zones? Color me convinced!
  - csallen 2y ago
    So your method of assessing the veracity of information has nothing to do with the information itself, but is entirely based upon who it's from?
    - chengiz 2y ago
      Not entirely. But I do know the meaning of vested in vested interests.
      - csallen 2y ago
        If someone tells me 2+2=4 or even 2+2=5, it won't matter to me what their vested interests are, unless I don't know arithmetic.
        chengiz 2y ago
        Same. But I don't conflate Koolaid with arithmetic.
devoutsalsa 2y ago
It could be pension fraud! “Most Age Records are Pension Fraud, Scientist Says” => https://youtu.be/VpwXswyt-zg?si=EyT1KpxA0JY7kk17 https://youtu.be/VpwXswyt-zg?si=EyT1KpxA0JY7kk17
asimpletune 2y ago
Nonetheless it’s not uncommon to see 80 year olds riding bikes here in Italy.

nilawafer 2y ago

chengiz 2y ago
"Recently been shown" by the paper I linked to.

csallen 2y ago

Response from some blue zone demographers to the paper you linked: https://www.bluezones.com/news/are-supercentenarian-claims-based-on-age-exaggeration https://www.bluezones.com/news/are-supercentenarian-claims-b... It begins, "The pre-print is not new data, research, or a study. It is a theory – an opinion paper that the author has been unable to get published in any scientific journal or peer-reviewed publication. The original version of the paper was released as a pre-print in 2019 and still has not been properly published, meaning the theories have never passed any scientific peer review." And it continues with a point-by-point rebuttal. Worth taking a look at.

chengiz 2y ago
Blue zones demographers from https://bluezones.com https://bluezones.com rebut research against blue zones? Color me convinced!
- csallen 2y ago
  So your method of assessing the veracity of information has nothing to do with the information itself, but is entirely based upon who it's from?
  - chengiz 2y ago
    Not entirely. But I do know the meaning of vested in vested interests.
    - csallen 2y ago
      If someone tells me 2+2=4 or even 2+2=5, it won't matter to me what their vested interests are, unless I don't know arithmetic.
      - chengiz 2y ago
        Same. But I don't conflate Koolaid with arithmetic.

devoutsalsa 2y ago

It could be pension fraud! “Most Age Records are Pension Fraud, Scientist Says” => https://youtu.be/VpwXswyt-zg?si=EyT1KpxA0JY7kk17 https://youtu.be/VpwXswyt-zg?si=EyT1KpxA0JY7kk17

asimpletune 2y ago

Nonetheless it’s not uncommon to see 80 year olds riding bikes here in Italy.