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It's ubiquitous. It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else, bar the few nerds that still have their fb2k library or vinyl collection. I th

by meibo 2y ago

It's ubiquitous. It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else, bar the few nerds that still have their fb2k library or vinyl collection. I think it's easy for people to forget that having legal, instant access to all the music on the planet absolutely wasn't the norm a decade ago.

tomashubelbauer 2y ago
I miss my foobar2000 layout with foo_facets.
sokoloff 2y ago
> It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else It’s far from the only way people listen to music. I listen to music on FM radio way more than I do free streaming services (mostly Amazon music’s free tier) for the overwhelmingly majority (essentially all) of my music consumption, and have no user-paid subscriptions. Both are ad-supported and probably pay little to artists, similar to paid streaming.
- idiotsecant 2y ago
  Yes, there's probably someone somewhere listening to pirate shortwave radio broadcasts, too. You're being pedantic. Most people do not consume FM radio as their main source of music.
  - sokoloff 2y ago
    The worldwide radio market revenue is about $35B/yr. I think that’s larger than the audio streaming market; the reference point I found for that was $25B/yr. Granted, not all radio is music (nor is streaming), but (assuming I didn’t get the research wrong) radio is larger, making it at least slightly weird to call it a pedantic argument that the larger of the two markets even exists as a source of music for people.
nalinidash 2y ago
>It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else, bar the few nerds that still have their fb2k library or vinyl collection Not really.Other services exist, like Youtube music.
fragmede 2y ago
hate to break it to you, but Spotify launched in 2008 right after the original iphone in 2007, so it's been a bit more than a decade.
- meibo 2y ago
  Time flies! Though I guess it really reached critical mass in the early to mid 10s.

by meibo 2y ago

tomashubelbauer 2y ago

I miss my foobar2000 layout with foo_facets.

sokoloff 2y ago

> It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else It’s far from the only way people listen to music. I listen to music on FM radio way more than I do free streaming services (mostly Amazon music’s free tier) for the overwhelmingly majority (essentially all) of my music consumption, and have no user-paid subscriptions. Both are ad-supported and probably pay little to artists, similar to paid streaming.

idiotsecant 2y ago
Yes, there's probably someone somewhere listening to pirate shortwave radio broadcasts, too. You're being pedantic. Most people do not consume FM radio as their main source of music.
- sokoloff 2y ago
  The worldwide radio market revenue is about $35B/yr. I think that’s larger than the audio streaming market; the reference point I found for that was $25B/yr. Granted, not all radio is music (nor is streaming), but (assuming I didn’t get the research wrong) radio is larger, making it at least slightly weird to call it a pedantic argument that the larger of the two markets even exists as a source of music for people.

nalinidash 2y ago

>It's the only way people listen to music - there's nothing else, bar the few nerds that still have their fb2k library or vinyl collection Not really.Other services exist, like Youtube music.

fragmede 2y ago

hate to break it to you, but Spotify launched in 2008 right after the original iphone in 2007, so it's been a bit more than a decade.

meibo 2y ago
Time flies! Though I guess it really reached critical mass in the early to mid 10s.