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well my comment was specifically pointing out that giving someone agency is the opposite of “a problem.” i was pointing out that having options to spend your f

by toofy 2y ago

well my comment was specifically pointing out that giving someone agency is the opposite of “a problem.” i was pointing out that having options to spend your freetime how and where you like is the literal opposite of forcing you to “the will of a server” or whatever their statement was. to your comment, the ability to keep posts and such is going to vary by which system you’re using, for example: - twitter, absolutely not. they want to force you to spend your free time around whoever they say. and they absolutely want to make it difficult for you to have freedom to leave or the freedom to associate. in the before times there were sites you could use to move your contacts and follow the same people on Mastodon. elon hated the idea of people having freedom so he shut that down shortly after he took power. for this reason i recommend people start manually building their contacts on other sites now so the move will be easier once you’re ready. - threads, im not familiar enough with it yet to say for sure. i have a couple of accounts there but honestly, ill never use them, its zuckerberg… facebook… no thanks. been burned too many times by these people. - Mastodon, almost entirely yes. you can backup and download both your posts and your contacts. i dont worry too much about it, but if it’s something you’re super worried about just do like we all do with photos, docs, etc… keep a backup. i know some people keep a backup federated account mirroring follows, etc… for worst case scenarios. i occasionally download my follows and posts, but im not really too worried about it. - bluesky, yep. i love blue sky but for different reasons from Mastodon, i use them both all day long. just for different reasons. blue sky doesn’t at all have the same quality of community as Mastodon or even hn. it’s nice, but its not community focused. its more like twitter before eternal september took over. at the end of the day tho, i don’t have a lot of hope for it, the VC people will definitely figure out a way to ruin it. but to bring it back to my original comment: the important part is that we have the agency to utilize freedom of movement and association. it should creep you out when someone tries to convince you that having agency is a problem. having freedom to jump from place to place, server to server, community to community is a good thing and its crazy when these people keep attempting to convince us that jumping around is "a problem". when someone tries to force you to spend your playtime somewhere you don’t want to be, or when they try to convince you “no, you should want to be around eric especially when he’s a dickbag.” that should make your hair stand up with red flags. and that’s what these people have been trying to convince us for years—“noooo, why would you want to spend your free time somewhere else having fun? dont go enjoy yourself! you want to be here! no one here likes each other and everyone is screaming at each other! thats what you really want to do with your freetime!”

pxoe 2y ago
"backing up" and data takeouts are not data portability, cause with mastodon you can't actually move posts between servers. so it's like, literally what's the point if you cannot actually move your content and it's gonna be a flush and start new again, which in that regard is no different than moving from one proprietary platform to another
- toofy 2y ago
  sure, i can see why some might worry about this but like i said in a different comment, for me, most social media, ability to go back and reference years old random conversations just isn’t of any kind of critical “identity”. more important to me is just having a reference of who i’m mutual friends with. other than some family pictures on insta, i can’t remember the last time i’ve gone back and looked at old conversations. i can imagine why some people might need that, but for Mastodon i mostly use it for chatting with friends or light ephemeral type stuffs.
  - pxoe 2y ago
    for artists, content creators, their posts are literally their body of work. this is why people don't move away from twitter, for example - while the audience is important, having posts there is also just as important if not more, cause these posts are the thing that brought in the audience in the first place, and may continuously bring in the audience thru people browsing profiles and sharing/reposting. besides whatever the content of posts might be, not treating it like 'a part of your identity' when it is literally a reflection of it, i don't know, seems a little dismissive of yourself, but if that's your prerogative, sure. it's super not the same for everybody. for some people, their stuff is either more important to them personally regardless of what it is, or it holds more value with the amount of work put into it, or both. it's a little bit obtuse to look at platforms filled with posts, and then go and think that those posts are of no value, when it is literally the point and the core of those platforms, don't you think. like, you don't have to imagine. just look at those places that are filled with art and artists, content and creators.

by toofy 2y ago

pxoe 2y ago

"backing up" and data takeouts are not data portability, cause with mastodon you can't actually move posts between servers. so it's like, literally what's the point if you cannot actually move your content and it's gonna be a flush and start new again, which in that regard is no different than moving from one proprietary platform to another

toofy 2y ago
sure, i can see why some might worry about this but like i said in a different comment, for me, most social media, ability to go back and reference years old random conversations just isn’t of any kind of critical “identity”. more important to me is just having a reference of who i’m mutual friends with. other than some family pictures on insta, i can’t remember the last time i’ve gone back and looked at old conversations. i can imagine why some people might need that, but for Mastodon i mostly use it for chatting with friends or light ephemeral type stuffs.
- pxoe 2y ago
  for artists, content creators, their posts are literally their body of work. this is why people don't move away from twitter, for example - while the audience is important, having posts there is also just as important if not more, cause these posts are the thing that brought in the audience in the first place, and may continuously bring in the audience thru people browsing profiles and sharing/reposting. besides whatever the content of posts might be, not treating it like 'a part of your identity' when it is literally a reflection of it, i don't know, seems a little dismissive of yourself, but if that's your prerogative, sure. it's super not the same for everybody. for some people, their stuff is either more important to them personally regardless of what it is, or it holds more value with the amount of work put into it, or both. it's a little bit obtuse to look at platforms filled with posts, and then go and think that those posts are of no value, when it is literally the point and the core of those platforms, don't you think. like, you don't have to imagine. just look at those places that are filled with art and artists, content and creators.