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If FEMA or any government agency was at fault in any way, would you expect them to admit it? I'm not going to endorse any particular theory but your view of thi

If FEMA or any government agency was at fault in any way, would you expect them to admit it? I'm not going to endorse any particular theory but your view of things is way too simplistic. You simply cannot trust an agency, or the government as a whole, to investigate itself. Governments break their own laws constantly.

fragmede 2y ago
There's a difference between, say, Watergate, and making and spreading memes that say FEMA will only give you $750 if your house gets destroyed. If FEMA is violating their own policies, that's one thing, and very much should get investigated, but rumors are being spread that are just made up.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  Personally I have seen plenty of first-hand accounts from people that FEMA is nowhere in sight, they were turned down for the $750 per household (which appears to be a very narrow benefit for uninsured homes), and when FEMA was around they were seizing supplies and generally getting in the way. The same kind of thing happened surrounding the Maui fires. The people from that disaster are still complaining about the FEMA response. They are most likely being forced off of their very valuable land, and the government is behind it all. In the early stages of dealing with a disaster, rumor is an important source of information. When communication is cut off and travel is restricted, what exactly do you expect? Especially when government misconduct is suspected. Again, if you give government the power to suppress criticism, it often will. Regardless of whether the rumors are substantiated or not, this is America and people have the right to say what is on their mind even if it hurts the feelings of FEMA. To listen to FEMA, the rumors about them are more devastating than the actual disaster. From the start they took a position of "this criticism is interfering with our work" which is a gross exaggeration at best, and a pernicious lie in the minds of anyone with common sense. FEMA has long been a subject of controversy, as they seize supplies donated for disasters and redistrubute them or even sell them: https://www.facingsouth.org/2008/06/gulf-coast-nonprofits-left-out-of-the-loop-as-fema-gives-away-85-million-in-katrina-supplies https://www.facingsouth.org/2008/06/gulf-coast-nonprofits-le... You should look into this as well, a controversy involving FEMA's role in hypothetically putting Americans in concentration camps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84 The government has absolutely no problem with trampling on your rights under the pretense of a disaster. They'll screw you over. As far as I remember in any disaster before a couple of years ago, including Hurricane Katrina, FEMA has not stopped to demanding that people refrain from criticism. This is a modern phenomenon. The government is always scare-mongering about "misinformation" because they want the power of censorship. Legacy media is on board because they wish to crush any independent competitors that threaten that dying industry.

fragmede 2y ago

There's a difference between, say, Watergate, and making and spreading memes that say FEMA will only give you $750 if your house gets destroyed. If FEMA is violating their own policies, that's one thing, and very much should get investigated, but rumors are being spread that are just made up.

wakawaka28 2y ago
Personally I have seen plenty of first-hand accounts from people that FEMA is nowhere in sight, they were turned down for the $750 per household (which appears to be a very narrow benefit for uninsured homes), and when FEMA was around they were seizing supplies and generally getting in the way. The same kind of thing happened surrounding the Maui fires. The people from that disaster are still complaining about the FEMA response. They are most likely being forced off of their very valuable land, and the government is behind it all. In the early stages of dealing with a disaster, rumor is an important source of information. When communication is cut off and travel is restricted, what exactly do you expect? Especially when government misconduct is suspected. Again, if you give government the power to suppress criticism, it often will. Regardless of whether the rumors are substantiated or not, this is America and people have the right to say what is on their mind even if it hurts the feelings of FEMA. To listen to FEMA, the rumors about them are more devastating than the actual disaster. From the start they took a position of "this criticism is interfering with our work" which is a gross exaggeration at best, and a pernicious lie in the minds of anyone with common sense. FEMA has long been a subject of controversy, as they seize supplies donated for disasters and redistrubute them or even sell them: https://www.facingsouth.org/2008/06/gulf-coast-nonprofits-left-out-of-the-loop-as-fema-gives-away-85-million-in-katrina-supplies https://www.facingsouth.org/2008/06/gulf-coast-nonprofits-le... You should look into this as well, a controversy involving FEMA's role in hypothetically putting Americans in concentration camps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84 The government has absolutely no problem with trampling on your rights under the pretense of a disaster. They'll screw you over. As far as I remember in any disaster before a couple of years ago, including Hurricane Katrina, FEMA has not stopped to demanding that people refrain from criticism. This is a modern phenomenon. The government is always scare-mongering about "misinformation" because they want the power of censorship. Legacy media is on board because they wish to crush any independent competitors that threaten that dying industry.