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That's kind of expected. Folks over at the emualtion subreddit @ reddit are foaming at the mouth... when it doesn't even apply to them. Did they expect that th

That's kind of expected. Folks over at the emualtion subreddit @ reddit are foaming at the mouth... when it doesn't even apply to them. Did they expect that they would allow folks to check out other software like Photoshop at the Library?

vaylian 2y ago
Photoshop can still be purchased. This is about software that is no longer offered on the market.
- fragmede 2y ago
  Pedantically, Adobe no longer sells it out right, but they do let you rent it at various price levels via Creative Cloud. https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/plans.html https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/plans.html
  - dvfjsdhgfv 2y ago
    That's correct - today if you want to actually buy Adobe Photoshop, you have to buy from a vendor other than Adobe (and you will miss some recent features).
robinsonb5 2y ago
If you're a computer historian, there'd be some value in being able to check out an ancient version that, for example, works on 68k Macs.
- jhbadger 2y ago
  At least my local public library has hundreds of CD-ROMs of Mac and Windows software (mostly from the 1990s when boxed software was still standard) that you can check out. Granted, I can imagine that's the sort of thing that will get "weeded" in a decade or so when the library needs space and they see this old software as being worthless.
  - jonhohle 2y ago
    As others have mentioned, some of that software is become very rare and collectible. Would a library lend a copy of “Indiana Jones in Revenge of the Ancients”?
Spivak 2y ago
> Did they expect that they would allow folks to check out other software like Photoshop at the Library? Ominous-they would really like to disallow it. But yes, of course you should. When you get a license key that's a seat. Commercial software has been making this work forever with license servers. Like this isn't some crazy mental model. When you buy an iPhone you bought the hardware and one indefinite transferable license to run iOS. How else should software ownership work?
- jonhohle 2y ago
  Licensing is different from fair use and copyright. The games the original article is describing had no license and were only protected by copyright (no different than a book or movie). Licenses can both permit and restrict things that copyright and fair use allow or don’t allow.

vaylian 2y ago

Photoshop can still be purchased. This is about software that is no longer offered on the market.

fragmede 2y ago
Pedantically, Adobe no longer sells it out right, but they do let you rent it at various price levels via Creative Cloud. https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/plans.html https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/plans.html
- dvfjsdhgfv 2y ago
  That's correct - today if you want to actually buy Adobe Photoshop, you have to buy from a vendor other than Adobe (and you will miss some recent features).

robinsonb5 2y ago

If you're a computer historian, there'd be some value in being able to check out an ancient version that, for example, works on 68k Macs.

jhbadger 2y ago
At least my local public library has hundreds of CD-ROMs of Mac and Windows software (mostly from the 1990s when boxed software was still standard) that you can check out. Granted, I can imagine that's the sort of thing that will get "weeded" in a decade or so when the library needs space and they see this old software as being worthless.
- jonhohle 2y ago
  As others have mentioned, some of that software is become very rare and collectible. Would a library lend a copy of “Indiana Jones in Revenge of the Ancients”?

Spivak 2y ago

> Did they expect that they would allow folks to check out other software like Photoshop at the Library? Ominous-they would really like to disallow it. But yes, of course you should. When you get a license key that's a seat. Commercial software has been making this work forever with license servers. Like this isn't some crazy mental model. When you buy an iPhone you bought the hardware and one indefinite transferable license to run iOS. How else should software ownership work?

jonhohle 2y ago
Licensing is different from fair use and copyright. The games the original article is describing had no license and were only protected by copyright (no different than a book or movie). Licenses can both permit and restrict things that copyright and fair use allow or don’t allow.