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I appreciate your story, I am curious how you feel about exploiting in games today? I don't want to dramatize it too much since it's pretty contentious online,

by ehnto 2y ago

I appreciate your story, I am curious how you feel about exploiting in games today? I don't want to dramatize it too much since it's pretty contentious online, but obviously, your fun was at the expense of others. So I am curious if that is something you considered at the time or grew out of doing? The engineering aspect of exploits has always been fascinating to me, and I sometimes mess with singleplayer games. But given how competitive and serious games get these days the idea of exploiting online feels a bit more than just silly fun. I can see how this might read as a veiled dig but it's not. As one tinkerer to another, it's a rare opportunity to ask.

anal_reactor 2y ago
1. When you're looking at a screen, sometimes it's difficult to image that on the other side of the screen there is another real person. 2. There are some cultures where cheating and bullying aren't considered bad things per se, but rather as demonstration of cleverness and power. 3. Some people develop proper sense of empathy later in their lives, later than when learn how to interact with the world, which is one of the reasons why teenagers in general are such pain in the ass. Some people never actually feel empathy, and simply don't care about other people. BTW in real, physical sports, there's little room for "sportsmanship". It's all about winning, it doesn't matter how, and people with most medals are people who understand this the best. You can especially see this in sports where raw muscle power is more important than skill and technique, for example cycling. What makes you think that gaming would be any different?
p2detar 2y ago
I barely play games theses day, so no. I imagine I could have fun exploiting some non-AAA games for fun and learning, do so some rev engineering on ws protocols and such, but presently it’s not on my list at all. About this particular story - I didn’t care too much back then, honestly. Neither the devs I assume, because they knew there was cheating going on. I think they kept our accounts because we were spending handsome money buying ingame upgrades, boosts etc.

by ehnto 2y ago

anal_reactor 2y ago

1. When you're looking at a screen, sometimes it's difficult to image that on the other side of the screen there is another real person. 2. There are some cultures where cheating and bullying aren't considered bad things per se, but rather as demonstration of cleverness and power. 3. Some people develop proper sense of empathy later in their lives, later than when learn how to interact with the world, which is one of the reasons why teenagers in general are such pain in the ass. Some people never actually feel empathy, and simply don't care about other people. BTW in real, physical sports, there's little room for "sportsmanship". It's all about winning, it doesn't matter how, and people with most medals are people who understand this the best. You can especially see this in sports where raw muscle power is more important than skill and technique, for example cycling. What makes you think that gaming would be any different?

p2detar 2y ago

I barely play games theses day, so no. I imagine I could have fun exploiting some non-AAA games for fun and learning, do so some rev engineering on ws protocols and such, but presently it’s not on my list at all. About this particular story - I didn’t care too much back then, honestly. Neither the devs I assume, because they knew there was cheating going on. I think they kept our accounts because we were spending handsome money buying ingame upgrades, boosts etc.