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Yes exactly. It reminds me of this video by veritasium, which is in turn inspired by Adrian Tan where he says “Be hated” and describes how in being successful y

Yes exactly. It reminds me of this video by veritasium, which is in turn inspired by Adrian Tan where he says “Be hated” and describes how in being successful you should seek to be hated by those with poor values. Not that I agree with everything Elon, Mr beast or Veritasum does by any stretch, but they have all seemingly embraced this. I also think it’s inevitable with fame, and perhaps a good check on the actions of those with power. If I were Mr Beast and I read this I’d shrug it off and think you can’t impress everyone. Again, I don’t agree or even follow what he does but it actually doesn’t matter, if you do good, or bad, or do much of anything notable, you will attract hate.

The_Colonel 2y ago
> Again, I don’t agree or even follow what he does but it actually doesn’t matter, if you do good, or bad, or do much of anything notable, you will attract hate. Of course, and you need to accept that you will get hate, but it shouldn't become a source of validation. Getting hate from bad people doesn't mean you're doing good - e.g. Stalin was hated by Nazis, that doesn't make him a good guy. > where he says “Be hated” and describes how in being successful you should seek to be hated by those with poor values I think that even if you're in fact the good guy doing good things, seeking hate / outrage from the bad people is wrong or at least tactically a bad decision in the sense they will get even more deep-seated in their bad values.
- left-struck 2y ago
  No you’re totally right, and Derek from Veritasium does point out that being hated shouldn’t be a moral compass. I think the point is more that you should know that even when you’re doing something right some people, maybe many people, will hate you for it. Incidentally if you’re doing something wrong you might be quite popular as well. Popularity isn’t a good judge of character.

The_Colonel 2y ago

> Again, I don’t agree or even follow what he does but it actually doesn’t matter, if you do good, or bad, or do much of anything notable, you will attract hate. Of course, and you need to accept that you will get hate, but it shouldn't become a source of validation. Getting hate from bad people doesn't mean you're doing good - e.g. Stalin was hated by Nazis, that doesn't make him a good guy. > where he says “Be hated” and describes how in being successful you should seek to be hated by those with poor values I think that even if you're in fact the good guy doing good things, seeking hate / outrage from the bad people is wrong or at least tactically a bad decision in the sense they will get even more deep-seated in their bad values.

left-struck 2y ago
No you’re totally right, and Derek from Veritasium does point out that being hated shouldn’t be a moral compass. I think the point is more that you should know that even when you’re doing something right some people, maybe many people, will hate you for it. Incidentally if you’re doing something wrong you might be quite popular as well. Popularity isn’t a good judge of character.