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Governments have ways of making themselves difficult to ignore.
by Legend2440 2y ago
Governments have ways of making themselves difficult to ignore.
- tomrod 2y agoDo they? What is the administrative division of governance in Liechtenstein? I don't know, and you might, but we mostly live blissfully unaware in the undergirding bueracracy that surrounds us. And if Liechtenstein calls for my head for saying that I know nothing about them, fantastic. I'll still never hear about it. The have no power where I am. But a government threatens an internationally beloved and fundamental institution built by the volunteering work of individuals across the globe for the pure love of sharing knowledge because it accurately made a statement? The Indian high court may as well allow universal atrocities for all the respect for sovereignty it will generate at home and abroad.
- hackernewds 2y agoA market with billions of users is a bit different than Liechtenstein
- tomrod 2y agoThe economy is not the government, and banning sites clearly doesn't work well.
- wodenokoto 2y agoLiechtenstein is a member of interpol, so if they have a warrant for your arrest, that might actually be a problem for you, even if you are not going there.
- tomrod 2y agoSince I am not in any eurozone, I am outside of Interpol's reach, and even if I am enemy #1 in Liechtenstein no one would care. Interpol is still bound by international law and budget constraints. An arrest warrant looks fine and scary when issued by another country but extradition costs money even when there are agreements in place. I might be some minor value as a trading token between my locale and Liechtenstein, so my game to beat is to be more valuable to my locale than as a trading pawn. That's a pretty easy target.
- slater 2y ago> Since I am not in any eurozone, I am outside of Interpol's reach Interpol has 196 member states.
- samatman 2y agoIs this some strange fantasy roleplay? If you go murder someone in Liechtenstein, there are only a small handful of places in the world where you are not guaranteed to be arrested and extradited back to Liechtenstein to face trial, at their government's request, should it ask and should you be found. In that small handful of places, it's still a crapshoot. Extradition costs are generally paid by the interested state, by the way.
- herewulf 2y agoYou're missing the point. The parent comment isn't talking about murder but "defaming" someone on fucking Wikipedia. Even if Liechtenstein takes a big issue with this to the point of extradition, the government of wherever the parent commenter lives likely will not allow it. And yeah, it is a fantasy because Liechtenstein isn't a backwards and stupid place like India is.
- tomjen3 2y agoUsually the worst that happens for services in foreign countries is that they get blocked, and wikipedia will survive not being accessible in India.
- theturtletalks 2y agoIf the choice is between revealing editors and exiting India altogether, doesn't seem like a hard choice. The people in India will suffer without Wikipedia, but most have VPNs to access blocked sites anyways.
- throwwiji 2y agoPeople existed before Wikipedia so it's not a big deal if it's gone
- Legend2440 2y agoWikimedia India is an independent nonprofit, with executives in India who could be held in contempt by the Indian courts. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_India
- mike_d 2y agoWikimedia India has nothing to do with the operation of Wikipedia.org and does not appear to be a party to the case. It is just a local wikipedia editors club.