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You need to return your waste to soil, maybe? Composting the food waste, and use composting toilets to create a "circular economy". That is apparently how it
by chairmansteve 2y ago
You need to return your waste to soil, maybe?
Composting the food waste, and use composting toilets to create a "circular economy".
That is apparently how it was done in the old days...
- schiffern 2y agoSee The Humanure Handbook. https://humanurehandbook.com/ https://humanurehandbook.com/ See also, Paul Wheaton criticism of The Humanure Handbook ("No, do fear your poop! Fear it!!"). Timecode link, but I recommend the whole video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vZPTPIHO8w&t=4980s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vZPTPIHO8w&t=4980s
- NoMoreNicksLeft 2y agoI too am a connoisseur of dysentery.
- schiffern 2y agoBut seriously check out the links, especially the second one. That's precisely the point — to close the nutrient loop but still 100% interrupt the pathogen fecal-oral route.
- idunnoman1222 2y agoI watched the video and all he said is that if it smells bad, it is bad but I don’t see anything about closing the nutrient loop
- pfdietz 2y agoYes, let's put human waste containing a whole Walgreens' of drug residues onto a field growing our food crops. What could possibly go wrong?
- psd1 2y agoGood question. It's about unknown unknowns, right? But we could map out where those may be. I guess chemical toxicity, drugs with long half-lives that affect soil organisms, and antibiotics that promote resistance. (yeah yeah they are all chemicals.) For the chemical toxicity, it's chemicals that are harmful to plants but allowed for human consumption, or chemicals in sufficient quantity to disrupt soil balance. Doesn't seem like a real concern? With metabolic disruption to soil organisms, yes, there may be real danger there. That smells like previous environmental mistakes. Antibiotics, yeah, some danger. Livestock is exposed, and resistance-conferring genes might jump directly to human pathogens. It's worth studying. There are requirements for both sewage processing and fertilising soil, so the value of a solution would be high.
- chairmansteve 2y agoYes, at an industrial level it's a problem. But as a small scale regenerative farmer, its the thing to do. Like many things, poop doesn't easily scale....
- pfdietz 2y agoI don't see what scale has to do with it. The concentration of drug residues in manure is independent of the quantity.
- candiddevmike 2y agoMilogranite and similar are exactly that. Burned up human waste fertilizer.
- lukas099 2y agoI think most municipal waste systems in the U.S. do this. Probably other developed countries too. And they probably do it to a higher standard of safety and not allowing leaching or runoff.
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- jrochkind1 2y agoSome municipalities actually have separate stream food waste composting, which is great, but rare. Turning solid waste in sewage into fertilizer is a thing (I don't know if it's most places or not, i think not), but is pretty problematic in how it's done, it's a pretty toxic product. Definitely not the same as a composting toilet. https://missouriindependent.com/2024/08/09/fertilizer-from-human-waste-faces-scrutiny-but-remains-a-profitable-industry/ https://missouriindependent.com/2024/08/09/fertilizer-from-h...
- lukas099 2y agoProblematic? You are taking elements that cause ocean dead zones and recycling them to generate food. Sounds close to the best possible system.