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Not at my desktop, so I can’t really dig into the technical details of these sites, but by the look of them, they were all made either with the same tool and ge

by dartos 2y ago

Not at my desktop, so I can’t really dig into the technical details of these sites, but by the look of them, they were all made either with the same tool and general components OR they were all made by the same group (maybe the same contracting firm or something)

neom 2y ago
The images are all hosted on wix, so I guess they're all built with wix (I checked through them all to see if I could track the images back to anything, it's all stock photos) The weirdest thing I find about everything in there is this hobby lobby page: https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy
- dartos 2y ago
  Yknow maybe these are just actual us political groups… they have to exist, right?
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    "Real" legitimate domestic political groups usually have the names of the people running them, with bios, etc. Who founded them, etc. They try to make it easy to figure out who they are so you trust them. When that information is missing it's extremely suspicious, and rightly so.
    - uoaei 2y ago
      I think that's a pretty obsolete take that hasn't been reliable since Obama '08 and the "digital strategy". Not saying anything about "should", zealous downvoters...
      - singlepaynews 2y ago
        Why? Do you know something I don’t? Intuitively to me it seems like “unverified identities are usually fake” is the core tenant of post-internet media literacy.
        uoaei 2y ago
        Have you interacted with any political organizations in the last 10 years offline? If/when you interact with them online, do they claim provenance through some actual recognized body or just some vagaries around how they want to depict their alignments? If this was such a big deal, where is the hubbub about pretty much every email in my inbox? NGPVan (for instance, on the Dem side) doesn't require much except the bare minimum of legal registration for political organizations, I don't buy that what is essentially a "marketplace for voters' email addresses" suddenly legitimizes anyone who signs up for their service. My point is, if this is a problem, it has been one for a long time and the cultural zeitgeist seems to have simply ignored this except in cases that can be used to demonize enemies.
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        crazygringo 2y ago
        I don't understand anything you're talking about. Nobody likes e-mail spam from anonymous groups. NGPVan has an about page that lists who runs it with photos, they have an office and a phone number, they have a Wikipedia page. But they don't legitimize anyone else, as you seem to be suggesting. Anonymous interference like this hasn't been a problem for a long time, contrary to your assertion -- it's very specific to this and the past two elections, because it's a tactic especially used by foreign influence like Russia. And this isn't about "demonizing enemies", it's about identifying illegal foreign influence, which is a very real thing.
        uoaei 2y ago
  - dartos 2y ago
    Update to this, I’m convinced it’s not. Idk if it’s Russian or whatever, but I’ve been convinced by other comments that it’s probably not a community run internet group.

by dartos 2y ago

neom 2y ago

The images are all hosted on wix, so I guess they're all built with wix (I checked through them all to see if I could track the images back to anything, it's all stock photos) The weirdest thing I find about everything in there is this hobby lobby page: https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy https://www.smalltowntruth.org/our-economy

dartos 2y ago
Yknow maybe these are just actual us political groups… they have to exist, right?
- crazygringo 2y ago
  "Real" legitimate domestic political groups usually have the names of the people running them, with bios, etc. Who founded them, etc. They try to make it easy to figure out who they are so you trust them. When that information is missing it's extremely suspicious, and rightly so.
  - uoaei 2y ago
    I think that's a pretty obsolete take that hasn't been reliable since Obama '08 and the "digital strategy". Not saying anything about "should", zealous downvoters...
    - singlepaynews 2y ago
      Why? Do you know something I don’t? Intuitively to me it seems like “unverified identities are usually fake” is the core tenant of post-internet media literacy.
      - uoaei 2y ago
        Have you interacted with any political organizations in the last 10 years offline? If/when you interact with them online, do they claim provenance through some actual recognized body or just some vagaries around how they want to depict their alignments? If this was such a big deal, where is the hubbub about pretty much every email in my inbox? NGPVan (for instance, on the Dem side) doesn't require much except the bare minimum of legal registration for political organizations, I don't buy that what is essentially a "marketplace for voters' email addresses" suddenly legitimizes anyone who signs up for their service. My point is, if this is a problem, it has been one for a long time and the cultural zeitgeist seems to have simply ignored this except in cases that can be used to demonize enemies.
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        crazygringo 2y ago
        I don't understand anything you're talking about. Nobody likes e-mail spam from anonymous groups. NGPVan has an about page that lists who runs it with photos, they have an office and a phone number, they have a Wikipedia page. But they don't legitimize anyone else, as you seem to be suggesting. Anonymous interference like this hasn't been a problem for a long time, contrary to your assertion -- it's very specific to this and the past two elections, because it's a tactic especially used by foreign influence like Russia. And this isn't about "demonizing enemies", it's about identifying illegal foreign influence, which is a very real thing.
        uoaei 2y ago
- dartos 2y ago
  Update to this, I’m convinced it’s not. Idk if it’s Russian or whatever, but I’ve been convinced by other comments that it’s probably not a community run internet group.