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Which candidate was deemed a fascist by over a dozen members of his own administration? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-trump-administ

Which candidate was deemed a fascist by over a dozen members of his own administration? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-trump-administration-officials-sign-open-letter-backing-john-rcna177227 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-tru...

zer8k 2y ago
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- archagon 2y ago
  What does any of this rambling about Harris and the NBC have to do with the fact that 14 members of Trump's former administration (including one general) have agreed that Trump is an outright fascist in an open letter?
  - selectodude 2y ago
    These political threads on HN always make me really sad. A bunch of ostensibly intelligent and educated people who see whats happening and either don’t care or are excited about the prospect. I gave up. Pax Americana had a good run. The parallels to Germany 1933 and Russia 2003 are simply too loud to ignore at this point.
    - archagon 2y ago
      Indeed. I'm planning to spend the next year looking for a country to emigrate to that hasn't completely lost its mind. How can I stay politically invested in a democratic society that vociferously supports a burgeoning dictator? These are not my people anymore.
      - selectodude 2y ago
        My concern is that the US is simply too large and influential on the rest of the world. It’ll be bad here but it won’t be much better anywhere else.
      - bigstrat2003 2y ago
        > How can I stay politically invested in a democratic society that vociferously supports a burgeoning dictator? The problem is the lie that either of these candidates is anything like a dictator, not people supporting them. Neither Trump nor Harris is my pick for president, but whoever wins it will still be business as usual in America for four years. The only thing which actually threatens is is fearmongering tearing apart our bonds as countrymen and undermining belief in our system of government.
        archagon 2y ago
        Not according to general Kelly and 13 other members of Trump’s former administration. (Or Trump himself, who has explicitly said that he wants to be "dictator for a day," have "one really violent day" of police retaliation, throw his political enemies into prison, and who has wished his generals were more like Hitler’s because they barely stopped him from deploying troops on American soil last time around. I mean, come on. This isn't even reading between the lines anymore.)
  - mikeyouse 2y ago
    Slight correction - 3 Generals off the top of my head (Kelly, Mattis, and Milley)

zer8k 2y ago

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archagon 2y ago
What does any of this rambling about Harris and the NBC have to do with the fact that 14 members of Trump's former administration (including one general) have agreed that Trump is an outright fascist in an open letter?
- selectodude 2y ago
  These political threads on HN always make me really sad. A bunch of ostensibly intelligent and educated people who see whats happening and either don’t care or are excited about the prospect. I gave up. Pax Americana had a good run. The parallels to Germany 1933 and Russia 2003 are simply too loud to ignore at this point.
  - archagon 2y ago
    Indeed. I'm planning to spend the next year looking for a country to emigrate to that hasn't completely lost its mind. How can I stay politically invested in a democratic society that vociferously supports a burgeoning dictator? These are not my people anymore.
    - selectodude 2y ago
      My concern is that the US is simply too large and influential on the rest of the world. It’ll be bad here but it won’t be much better anywhere else.
    - bigstrat2003 2y ago
      > How can I stay politically invested in a democratic society that vociferously supports a burgeoning dictator? The problem is the lie that either of these candidates is anything like a dictator, not people supporting them. Neither Trump nor Harris is my pick for president, but whoever wins it will still be business as usual in America for four years. The only thing which actually threatens is is fearmongering tearing apart our bonds as countrymen and undermining belief in our system of government.
      - archagon 2y ago
        Not according to general Kelly and 13 other members of Trump’s former administration. (Or Trump himself, who has explicitly said that he wants to be "dictator for a day," have "one really violent day" of police retaliation, throw his political enemies into prison, and who has wished his generals were more like Hitler’s because they barely stopped him from deploying troops on American soil last time around. I mean, come on. This isn't even reading between the lines anymore.)
- mikeyouse 2y ago
  Slight correction - 3 Generals off the top of my head (Kelly, Mattis, and Milley)