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that's how i feel about umami (savoury) and kawaii (cute)

bigstrat2003 2y ago
People using "umami" in English is a big pet peeve of mine. It's so damn pretentious. "Savory" covers the meaning more than adequately and has existed in the language for a long time. There's no reason for the foreign loan word except to try to sound super smart.
- dymk 2y ago
  It’s not the same flavor
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- yen223 2y ago
  Umami refers to a specific flavour, savoury refers to a broad category of foods that are basically not sweet. You can have "savoury" meals that have no umami flavour.
  - asdasdsddd 2y ago
    I can assure you that japanese people don't refer to umami as a flavor lol
- quesera 2y ago
  Umami is a subset of savory. It's not pretentious (when used correctly), it's more precise.
  - mark_l_watson 2y ago
    That is correct. I buy a liquid specifically labeled as ‘Umami’ that my family adds to vegetables, rice, etc.
    - echoangle 2y ago
      Is the liquid MSG solution or is there something else in there?
      - mark_l_watson 2y ago
        No MSG.
        echoangle 2y ago
        So what is it?
        mark_l_watson 2y ago
        Yondu vegetable umami
        echoangle 2y ago
        That seems to be made from fermented soybeans which is also how pure MSG is produced. I’m pretty sure the main active component of this is also just MSG, although they point out that they don’t explicitly add artificial MSG.
- mock-possum 2y ago
  Can you not distinguish the flavour of umami from other flavors?
hatthew 2y ago
I disagree. As the other comments have stated, umami and savory are completely different words. I agree that kawaii and cute are synonyms, but I only see it being used in vaguely japanese-related contexts, where it's not necessary but also not in any way a misuse, similar to how "hors d'oeuvre" is used in place of "appetizer".
musicale 2y ago
It's easy to find examples such as: "Taste receptors in the mouth sense the five basic tastes: sweetness, sourness, saltiness, bitterness, and savoriness (also known as savory or umami)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Basic_tastes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Basic_tastes

bigstrat2003 2y ago

People using "umami" in English is a big pet peeve of mine. It's so damn pretentious. "Savory" covers the meaning more than adequately and has existed in the language for a long time. There's no reason for the foreign loan word except to try to sound super smart.

dymk 2y ago
It’s not the same flavor
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yen223 2y ago
Umami refers to a specific flavour, savoury refers to a broad category of foods that are basically not sweet. You can have "savoury" meals that have no umami flavour.
- asdasdsddd 2y ago
  I can assure you that japanese people don't refer to umami as a flavor lol
quesera 2y ago
Umami is a subset of savory. It's not pretentious (when used correctly), it's more precise.
- mark_l_watson 2y ago
  That is correct. I buy a liquid specifically labeled as ‘Umami’ that my family adds to vegetables, rice, etc.
  - echoangle 2y ago
    Is the liquid MSG solution or is there something else in there?
    - mark_l_watson 2y ago
      No MSG.
      - echoangle 2y ago
        So what is it?
        mark_l_watson 2y ago
        Yondu vegetable umami
        echoangle 2y ago
        That seems to be made from fermented soybeans which is also how pure MSG is produced. I’m pretty sure the main active component of this is also just MSG, although they point out that they don’t explicitly add artificial MSG.
mock-possum 2y ago
Can you not distinguish the flavour of umami from other flavors?

hatthew 2y ago

I disagree. As the other comments have stated, umami and savory are completely different words. I agree that kawaii and cute are synonyms, but I only see it being used in vaguely japanese-related contexts, where it's not necessary but also not in any way a misuse, similar to how "hors d'oeuvre" is used in place of "appetizer".

musicale 2y ago

It's easy to find examples such as: "Taste receptors in the mouth sense the five basic tastes: sweetness, sourness, saltiness, bitterness, and savoriness (also known as savory or umami)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Basic_tastes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste#Basic_tastes