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> This is a band aid Yes, and like a band-aid it will help sick people heal. Which is a good thing, that should be celebrated. I don't believe that I've ever

> This is a band aid Yes, and like a band-aid it will help sick people heal. Which is a good thing, that should be celebrated. I don't believe that I've ever heard anyone espouse the idea that nothing else in the patients life should change, or that the drugs alone are a complete answer. Although, that seems to be the counter position to your argument. Everyone knows that fat people need to eat less and exercise more, including the fat people. These drugs help them do that. The drugs are advertised, sold, and prescribed that way and include advice to that effect in the informational pamphlets they come with in addition to usually including a lecture from your physician. What else do you need before you can just be happy for people that are struggling a little less now?

javier123454321 2y ago
I'm happy for that, I repeated that I don't blame the people that get it prescribed. And I was using the term band aid in the colloquial term, as in 'something that doesn't address the root issues'. Obesity, diabetes, have all risen, especially in kids since the 90s, what changed, and what caused this? Are we still having the same causes, or because we can get a lifetime prescription to Ozempic and cover up the worse symptoms, we're ok with it? This is a massive red flag that something is wrong with this situation, not because some people are losing weight, but because some people are getting people sick and others are selling a cure at their expense. Encouraging another lifelong prescription is not addressing the causes and encouraging people to benefit off of making people sick.
- stevenAthompson 2y ago
  I think you have a solid point here. I can accept that there may be larger root causes left to address, as long as we can also be clear that these drugs are also a huge win for individual health while society works on those, possibly intractable, root causes. It's obviously going to be faster to treat individuals than it is to change our entire societies relationship with food and how we produce it, and we shouldn't just let all the fat people die while we figure it out.

javier123454321 2y ago

I'm happy for that, I repeated that I don't blame the people that get it prescribed. And I was using the term band aid in the colloquial term, as in 'something that doesn't address the root issues'. Obesity, diabetes, have all risen, especially in kids since the 90s, what changed, and what caused this? Are we still having the same causes, or because we can get a lifetime prescription to Ozempic and cover up the worse symptoms, we're ok with it? This is a massive red flag that something is wrong with this situation, not because some people are losing weight, but because some people are getting people sick and others are selling a cure at their expense. Encouraging another lifelong prescription is not addressing the causes and encouraging people to benefit off of making people sick.

stevenAthompson 2y ago
I think you have a solid point here. I can accept that there may be larger root causes left to address, as long as we can also be clear that these drugs are also a huge win for individual health while society works on those, possibly intractable, root causes. It's obviously going to be faster to treat individuals than it is to change our entire societies relationship with food and how we produce it, and we shouldn't just let all the fat people die while we figure it out.