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My father has used ozempic. He hails it as a wonder drug, yet he does little to nothing to change his behaviours because he can rely on this crutch. I see that

My father has used ozempic. He hails it as a wonder drug, yet he does little to nothing to change his behaviours because he can rely on this crutch. I see that as concerning

nemomarx 2y ago
Is he not eating less? If it's reducing appetite that seems like the biggest change of behavior you'd want, right?
- Extropy_ 2y ago
  You're suggesting that appetite is the cause of obesity. I don't agree with that notion. Repeatedly giving into your "appetite" will reinforce overeating
daedrdev 2y ago
I dont really think an ancedote is a good argument. We have studies showing many people eat less on ozempic and loose substantial amounts of weight, and its main effect is not even the weight loss but reducing heart problems and fixing blood sugar in diabetes patients
- Extropy_ 2y ago
  He lost substantial amounts of weight. He sees it as a solution to his problem of being overweight and does nothing to change his lifestyle. I'm concerned that celebrating this drug as a simple solution to Obesity sends that message to other people as well EDIT: celebrating Ozempic as a simple solution to obesity is literally what I'm referencing my Dad doing
  - gnat 2y ago
    You should keep in mind that you’re disapproving of your father’s lifestyle choices and his choices were not determined by the drug. Many people make different choices on those drugs. Eg once they’ve lost some weight and it’s easier to move, they move more and the sedentary lifestyle changes. Similarly, I’ve seen antidepressants used to get enough functioning and control back that the chain of causes and effects can start to be addressed and intervened in.
Izikiel43 2y ago
Weird, this drug chemically changes behaviour, so how can his behaviour stay the same? It's been reported to reduce cravings related to food, alcohol, and cigarettes, you are saying your father while on the drug consumes the same? Or is it that he uses it for a while, then lapses, repeat ad naseum? If it's the second scenario, that's personal responsibility, not much to do there really, he has been given all the tools to improve but chooses not to, and that will catch up to him, no matter ozempic usage.
- Extropy_ 2y ago
  This is what I'm saying: personal responsibility. Celebrating this drug as a magic solution to obesity is not right. It is a tool, not a fix
  - stevenAthompson 2y ago
    It is sold as a tool, not a fix. If you've found it to be otherwise you should report it to the FDA. Did you actually see it being sold in the way you're describing, or are you just extrapolating from social media rot?

My father has used ozempic. He hails it as a wonder drug, yet he does little to nothing to change his behaviours because he can rely on this crutch. I see that as concerning

nemomarx 2y ago

Is he not eating less? If it's reducing appetite that seems like the biggest change of behavior you'd want, right?

Extropy_ 2y ago
You're suggesting that appetite is the cause of obesity. I don't agree with that notion. Repeatedly giving into your "appetite" will reinforce overeating

daedrdev 2y ago

I dont really think an ancedote is a good argument. We have studies showing many people eat less on ozempic and loose substantial amounts of weight, and its main effect is not even the weight loss but reducing heart problems and fixing blood sugar in diabetes patients

Extropy_ 2y ago
He lost substantial amounts of weight. He sees it as a solution to his problem of being overweight and does nothing to change his lifestyle. I'm concerned that celebrating this drug as a simple solution to Obesity sends that message to other people as well EDIT: celebrating Ozempic as a simple solution to obesity is literally what I'm referencing my Dad doing
- gnat 2y ago
  You should keep in mind that you’re disapproving of your father’s lifestyle choices and his choices were not determined by the drug. Many people make different choices on those drugs. Eg once they’ve lost some weight and it’s easier to move, they move more and the sedentary lifestyle changes. Similarly, I’ve seen antidepressants used to get enough functioning and control back that the chain of causes and effects can start to be addressed and intervened in.

Izikiel43 2y ago

Weird, this drug chemically changes behaviour, so how can his behaviour stay the same? It's been reported to reduce cravings related to food, alcohol, and cigarettes, you are saying your father while on the drug consumes the same? Or is it that he uses it for a while, then lapses, repeat ad naseum? If it's the second scenario, that's personal responsibility, not much to do there really, he has been given all the tools to improve but chooses not to, and that will catch up to him, no matter ozempic usage.

Extropy_ 2y ago
This is what I'm saying: personal responsibility. Celebrating this drug as a magic solution to obesity is not right. It is a tool, not a fix
- stevenAthompson 2y ago
  It is sold as a tool, not a fix. If you've found it to be otherwise you should report it to the FDA. Did you actually see it being sold in the way you're describing, or are you just extrapolating from social media rot?