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These comments on that video perfectly capture my reaction: > This is FUD. Who or what speeds up to 55 mph to enter a rotary? How is it that the posted limit a

These comments on that video perfectly capture my reaction: > This is FUD. Who or what speeds up to 55 mph to enter a rotary? How is it that the posted limit and presumably map data indicates 55mp seconds before the rotary? What do you expect FSD which is training on humans using vision and the maps to do? I saw a dinky little rotary sign AT the rotary. I'd slam on the brakes or have an accident too. > Why would the car come to a stop? I don't see a stop sign, and most roundabouts are yield and I don't see another car blocking your way. Why enter a roundabout at 55? You are wrong, not the car or FSD. You don't know the correct way to drive a roundabout. FSD mimics human behavior. If you are speeding into a roundabout at 55 mph, you are the one in the wrong, not FSD. It's honestly kind of incredible the ridiculous lengths people go to try to discredit FSD.

FireBeyond 2y ago
> > This is FUD. Who or what speeds up to 55 mph to enter a rotary? How is it that the posted limit and presumably map data indicates 55mp seconds before the rotary? What do you expect FSD which is training on humans using vision and the maps to do? I saw a dinky little rotary sign AT the rotary. I'd slam on the brakes or have an accident too. This is a laughable hot take. "seconds before". Watching the video, it starts with him at 43mph, and he drives at 55mph for FORTY SECONDS before encountering the roundabout. All these clowns saying "Oh, in the real world he'd have slowed down for that roundabout". No. He wouldn't have started slowing down two-thirds of a mile away (40 seconds at 55mph). This is a garbage argument.
tzs 2y ago
That YouTube commenter you quote pretty clearly did not pay attention to the video. > FSD mimics human behavior. If you are speeding into a roundabout at 55 mph, you are the one in the wrong, not FSD. It's honestly kind of incredible the ridiculous lengths people go to try to discredit FSD. That's just rephrasing the YouTube comment. Try watching the video yourself. Particularly watch test #7. Here's a summary: • The car is on a highway, traveling at normal highway speed of 55 mph. There is no visual indication that there is a roundabout somewhere up ahead. • After traveling ~3800 feet there is a sign that indicates a roundabout and says the roundabout speed is 15 mph. The roundabout is not yet visible. • The car continues at highway speed past another sign ~600 feet past the first that also shows that there will be an upcoming roundabout. The road starts curving after that sign, and the roundabout starts coming into view ~600 feet further down the road. • The car continues approaching the roundabout at highway speed until the human intervenes. He tried to give the car as much time as possible for FSD to decide to slow down. In some of the tests he waited long enough that when he did hit the brakes he had to brake very very aggressively to slow down to 15 mph before entering the roundabout. Even if it does not have that roundabout in its map and did not read the signs so it is not expecting a roundabout there shouldn't is see it as a sharp bend in the road that should not be taken at highway speed and slow down?
- kyleee 2y ago
  I wish we could shut down the road and put a crash dummy in the drivers seat and see what happens.

FireBeyond 2y ago

> > This is FUD. Who or what speeds up to 55 mph to enter a rotary? How is it that the posted limit and presumably map data indicates 55mp seconds before the rotary? What do you expect FSD which is training on humans using vision and the maps to do? I saw a dinky little rotary sign AT the rotary. I'd slam on the brakes or have an accident too. This is a laughable hot take. "seconds before". Watching the video, it starts with him at 43mph, and he drives at 55mph for FORTY SECONDS before encountering the roundabout. All these clowns saying "Oh, in the real world he'd have slowed down for that roundabout". No. He wouldn't have started slowing down two-thirds of a mile away (40 seconds at 55mph). This is a garbage argument.

tzs 2y ago

That YouTube commenter you quote pretty clearly did not pay attention to the video. > FSD mimics human behavior. If you are speeding into a roundabout at 55 mph, you are the one in the wrong, not FSD. It's honestly kind of incredible the ridiculous lengths people go to try to discredit FSD. That's just rephrasing the YouTube comment. Try watching the video yourself. Particularly watch test #7. Here's a summary: • The car is on a highway, traveling at normal highway speed of 55 mph. There is no visual indication that there is a roundabout somewhere up ahead. • After traveling ~3800 feet there is a sign that indicates a roundabout and says the roundabout speed is 15 mph. The roundabout is not yet visible. • The car continues at highway speed past another sign ~600 feet past the first that also shows that there will be an upcoming roundabout. The road starts curving after that sign, and the roundabout starts coming into view ~600 feet further down the road. • The car continues approaching the roundabout at highway speed until the human intervenes. He tried to give the car as much time as possible for FSD to decide to slow down. In some of the tests he waited long enough that when he did hit the brakes he had to brake very very aggressively to slow down to 15 mph before entering the roundabout. Even if it does not have that roundabout in its map and did not read the signs so it is not expecting a roundabout there shouldn't is see it as a sharp bend in the road that should not be taken at highway speed and slow down?

kyleee 2y ago
I wish we could shut down the road and put a crash dummy in the drivers seat and see what happens.