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If they're anything like the US, even though sales to children are banned, kids still get their hands on it. I have a family member who works directly with chil
by kelseyfrog 2y ago
If they're anything like the US, even though sales to children are banned, kids still get their hands on it. I have a family member who works directly with children and they constantly find kids vaping in the restrooms. At some point adults are distributing vapes to children despite the legality.
If the most modulatable link in the supply chain is sales to adults who then distribute to children, that's unfortunately going to be the point that lawmakers target. Sucks to give people a chance and then be shown why we were wrong.
- bowsamic 2y agoHuh? This is a ban for everyone, not just children
- kelseyfrog 2y agoCorrect. What do you think I wrote?
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- bowsamic 2y agoIf it’s banned for everyone, how would adults be able to buy them for children?
- kelseyfrog 2y agoI was describing the current state. Children cannot currently buy vapes; adults can. However, it still ends up in the hands of children.
- bowsamic 2y agoI don't see why that's relevant to the ban
- kelseyfrog 2y agoIt's relevant to the article > intended to protect children's health It sounds like you disagree and are expressing that disagreement as a difference of understanding. Is that right?
- tredre3 2y agoGP's comment confused me too at first but after reading the article a second time, they do frame it as "for the children": > Ministers in England said the move [...] is intended to protect children's health and prevent environmental damage.
- tredre3 2y agoIt's weird how the article (and perhaps the law itself?) frame it as being "for the children". Disposable vapes are an environmental disaster. If this new law forces the manufacturers to add a 5 cents usb port to recharge them or force them to make the cell removable so it can be charged (disposable vapes already use rechargeable cells, they just can't be charged currently), it's a win for everybody.
- qup 2y agoThe ones here are both disposable and rechargeable. The tank is larger than the battery would burn without a recharge, but not refillable.
- potato3732842 2y ago>Sucks to give people a chance and then be shown why we were wrong. Is this just clumsy wording or a dog whistle for how you think society ought to be structured? Because if the latter I take serious issue with the implied assumptions about the relationship between the government and the people. Yeah, smoking is bad and vaping is only a little better but it's a pretty mild problem as far as societal ills go, adults are adults and you don't get to screw everyone because of a few bad actors.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoI'm purely a consequentialist on this topic. Take that however you want
- antihero 2y agoVaping is significantly better.
- mgraczyk 2y agoIn the US, sales of disposable vapes are not allow to anyone by anyone
- ksp-atlas 2y agoAt least here, kids vaping is basically normal and it's really bad
- foxyv 2y agoWhen I was a kid, there was a black market for trading cards, candy, cigarettes, and blunts in school. Schools are a lot like prisons, where the poorer kids needed a hustle to eat. Some kids were making tons of money selling to other kids in school. Mostly legal stuff, but some illegal. Usually they had an older brother to supply them with stuff they couldn't get on their own.